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hello

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United States

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this is behind you it this is not

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present line how did you get through

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everywhere all the time receiving every

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day behind you there is nothing behind

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does it matter that my face please you

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must look behind you you later there are

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allow speakers

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right way

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i'm craig Lewis and this is ground zero

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numbers to call and I triple eight 673

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3700 that's dribble 867 three 3700

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he ever wondered of all the plans in the

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world were like a week late for all of

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those who said that the 23rd was going

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to be the day for reckoning and

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craziness they moved in 28 here we are

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the 30th we're already going into serio

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actually Russia's going to Syria I made

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the announcement about possible life on

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Mars the Pope came the New World Order

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is on the is right there on the counter

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ready to reach for every damn country

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must be part of this world love party

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that they want to I don't know what yeah

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see you know that doesn't think the

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recent announcements from NASA and other

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scientific publications are pushing the

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limits of our understanding of the solar

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system and our universe and these events

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are unfolding as if well they're on cue

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a little late but still on cue because

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these events are called Black Swan

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events they're here changing our minds

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about how we see things they change the

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way we view ourselves and the condition

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for our well-being nearly 10 months into

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the new year we see that the fall and

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even as we go into winter our minds will

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be focused on the frontier provided by

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space and the overall discord we're

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seeing play out here in places like

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Syria and Europe and even though that

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many times this year we have come to the

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precipice of war it becomes apparent

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that an announcement of life on Mars and

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elsewhere will have to be the very thing

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that unites us as planned our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this world Ronald Reagan UN if

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experiments of the Large Hadron Collider

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at CERN are successful we may also be

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able to open a wormhole that would be

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convenient to facilitate a straight

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conduit to planets like Jupiter Saturn

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and Mars that me one way to beat the

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space travel problem is to be able to

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have a conduit or some sort of a

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wormhole constructed so that we can go

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into it and come out on Mars or come out

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to Jupiter Saturn or wherever we want to

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explore see if there is life on any of

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the moons of Saturn in the moons of

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Jupiter but also find out there's life

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on Mars which we now say is a high

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probability and it appears that some

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areas of science already knew

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the announcement about probable life

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would have to be made and that the study

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of the first moments the first second

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that our universe was born was crucial

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to understanding how life evolved and

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not only is on its way or that not only

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it's on this planet bits on several

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planets all over the galaxy science

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tells us that we have now peered into

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the birth of creation and depending on

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who you listen to you will also hear the

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universe is teeming with life I had a

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friend of mine who was an astronomer in

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Utah he used to always tell me you know

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you're on your show talking about life

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out in space and people think you're

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crazy but the universe is teeming with

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eNOS a teeming with life and that's and

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then Evans the universe is teeming with

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life and I'm like thinking yeah okay

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great I missed that I wish you can say

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the universe is teeming with life

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because it is now we at least we we

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speculated it's teeming with life it's

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also interesting to note that as crazy

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as it may sound something as simple as

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TV static or the snow effect on analog

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TV signals provide the sound and one

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percent of the light that existed during

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the Big Bang you learn something new

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every day I read about that today and it

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fascinated because I really didn't know

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that when you back in the day we had

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analog signals on television you see

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that hear the static and you see the the

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snow what that is is giving off one

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percent of the light of the Big Bang and

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you hear that that white noise and

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that's part of it as well go figure it

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was an open channel it really what it

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was an open channel literally to the

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universe that's what you were hearing

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that's what you're seeing with that

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light when you're watching snow you're

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watching the remnants 1% just one that's

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really tiny isn't it I'd say it's that

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one percent of the Big Bang was seen on

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the analog team we don't see that

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anymore we don't see the static anymore

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on televisions don't you have an old TV

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and you're still you know you don't have

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a flat screen or you don't have HD or

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you don't have animal and you don't have

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them sorry digital then you know but if

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you have analog still um analog

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television you turn on see the white

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noise and that is one percent of the Big

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and this may explain also why analog

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signals were replaced with digital

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signals I mean think about we discussed

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that buried is electromagnetic noise may

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be the key to encrypted messages that

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have been broadcast by alien

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intelligences for a long time then on

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Commission mandated that all us-based

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television signals must be transmitted

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digitally that would have thought but

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the random pattern superimposed on the

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TV screen is a random flicker of dots or

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snow was the result of electronic noise

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and radiated electromagnetic noise from

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outer space echoing from the past into

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our president make sure what are you an

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analog TV just to watch this a guess

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what i'm watching I'm watching the

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beginning of the universe at least one

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percent of it it's crazy but it's true I

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mean if you think I'd like you look it

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up I was just blown away with it I was

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doing some research today so did you

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know that the static on the television

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is one percent it one percent of the Big

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Bang it's crazy but there are crazier

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things I've said but seriously look it

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up and so you know this makes me think

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it makes me wonder out loud this well

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okay so now we have digital signals on

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every television all the old TVs you

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talking man I remembered analog TVs i

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guess grandpa would watch an analog TV

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still watching the old analog yeah we

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crystal listen on the crystal the

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crystal set radio set for those of you

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crystal said it they'll is it on the

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crystal and watch the old analog and we

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get to watch one percent of the Big Bang

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boom and Static dude I'm thinking was

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the idea of removing the analog signal

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having all broadcast being digital and

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any signal that may have slipped through

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the static from aliens think about they

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changed it and now with all this

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activity and everybody having all these

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wild claims of a alien transmission

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and you know and City going all we need

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more money for alien contact in la la la

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la la do you think it's kind of you know

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advantageous for them to get rid of the

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analog signal if that analog signal

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could somewhat I mean no one's gonna sit

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this explains why little Caroline was

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going here here when she was up next to

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the television the white noise send

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signals that the whole that's and that

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makes me now I think these things I

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don't have to be stoned to think these

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things I wonder about the snow on your

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screen that was on analog screens and

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whether or not if you watched it long

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enough maybe it's the aliens coming out

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of the screen edge no science I could

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have very well been aware of the

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transmissions that could slip through

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the cracks after all for some years

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places like said 'i have been using

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their radio telescopes for years just

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bagging that we get a message just like

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the elephant Horton and dr. Seuss's but

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court hears a who you know a little uh

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what is it that little dust speck they

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said well we won't destroy this world if

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it gives us a signal that it's there

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yeah yeah yeah so yeah Horton years ago

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as I always saw that Horton years of you

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who was a metaphor for alien contact so

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important is running around with this

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little dust bag saying hey there's a

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world of the suspect they want to talk

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to us and sure we're gonna boil it bezel

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nut oil and we're gonna take heart and

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we're gonna turn him into glue or an

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ivory something ivory I don't know but

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see that's the thing is that it is a

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metaphor for life i believe on other

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planets or on some of the world that we

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are on a small world a small tiny world

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and other worlds out there we need to

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explore many many worlds out there when

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you to explore even renowned physicist

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Stephen Hawking has weighed in on the

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alien questioning he says it well he

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most definitely believes that aliens are

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out there and he has stated quote if the

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aliens visit us the outcome the outcome

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could be much like when Columbus landed

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in America which didn't turn out well

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of America such advanced aliens would

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perhaps become nomads looking to conquer

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and colonize whatever planets they can

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reach while Hawking is giving us

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worrying about first contact he also has

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engaged in a bit of doublethink i'ma

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tell you about that coming up double

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think it's just and once again he said

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and people said well he said this once

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before he did he came back and said once

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again but be aware of the Martian

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announcement because aliens could crush

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take that say it's with more force

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crushes treble eight 673 3700 Chevrolet

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let's get back to Stephen Hawking yet

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Stephen Hawking has said that he's

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worried that the aliens will crush us if

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we keep you know picking at this and

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wanting to come he said that it's gonna

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be probably like when Columbus found the

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Native Americans they did do 20 for the

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Native Americans that a lot of people

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have been expressing their anger over

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the statement because they're saying

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things like well it's totally arrogant

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to think the aliens are gonna come here

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and and actually you know chula treat a

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lot of bubblegum and kick ass they're

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all out of bubblegum type scenario but

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no that's not that's not the point the

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point is is when when Columbus came here

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he brought with him all the diseases

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that the Native Americans did not have

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you see you see we think that well they

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came here and basically you know they

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they took out their swords and started

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stabbing them cutting off their heads

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and stuff yeah maybe they did that you

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know all the other guys that pretended

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to be the white guy with a beard to like

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Cortez and cook and all these people

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yeah they came in and they made their

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conquests but the truth is it wasn't for

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those that weren't killed or shot at or

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whatever they were contracting diseases

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or being brought over from Europe and so

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what Stephen Hawking talks about that I

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think he's also referring to that I mean

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he's giving he has been giving us

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warnings about first contact but he also

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has engaged in a bit of doublethink by

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putting up the money necessary to

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finance the ongoing quest to communicate

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or otherwise intercept messages from

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extraterrestrials now if you remember

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last July we talked about Hawking and

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Russian tycoon Yuri Milner they held a

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news conference in London to announce

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their new project which would include

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injecting 100 million dollars and a

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whole lot of brainpower into the search

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for intelligent extraterrestrial life it

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was called breakthrough listen and what

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I see here is a dubious paradox or a

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contradictory stance doublethink on

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whether we should or should not bait the

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aliens into coming into our contemporary

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world with that NASA announcement about

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Mars we may find that alien life can be

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found in our solar neighborhood and for

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the majority of sci

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test the theory of intelligent life

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existing attic space has been called a

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pipe dream for so long I don't think

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people really have had it set in on them

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but yes the probability of life is way

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high now it's like saying life is on

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Mars but they didn't really say it is it

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water on Mars salty water on Mars and so

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it's high probability time it's not

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really necessarily proof but it's high

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probability x so much but see here's the

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deal when Hawking said what he said

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about Columbus he was talking about

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diseases right let's take let's take a

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little bit of let's see some logic here

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are some reverse logic here while a

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majority decided to say finding

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intelligent life on Mars would be you

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know slim okay I'm just kidding I'm just

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gonna play devil's advocate here with

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the alien thing so they're saying that

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hey you know finding intelligent life on

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Mars would be slim but but but but

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microbial life and space bacteria have

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always been something that science has

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said will be the first discovery on any

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planet or any moon that they discover or

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that they attempt to discover believe it

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or not and you can look this up to this

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is up there with the television screens

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and and and the in the Big Bang believe

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it or not nASA has always kept in its

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files something called the NASA policy

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directive 80 20 7 g dot look it up it's

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the NASA policy directive 8020 dot 7 g

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dot the office of NASA's science Mission

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Directorate has issued a policy on

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planetary protection requirements for

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human extra-terrestrial missions and

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that is how they worded it is planetary

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protection requirements for human

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extra-terrestrial missions the policy

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states quote the conduct of scientific

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investigations of possible

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extraterrestrial life-forms precursors

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and remnants must not be jeopardized in

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addition the earth must be protected

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from the potential hazard posed by

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extraterrestrial matter carried by a

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spacecraft returning from another planet

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or other extraterrestrial sources

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therefore for certain space missions

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target planet combinations controls on

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organic and biological contamination

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carried by spacecraft shall be imposed

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in accordance with directives

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implementing this policy the provisions

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of this directive cover all spaceflight

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missions robotic and human which may

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intentionally or unintentionally carry

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earth organisms and organic constituents

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to the planets or other solar system

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bodies and any mission employing

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spacecraft which are intended to return

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to Earth and or its biosphere from

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extraterrestrial targets of exploration

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this is an actual document a document

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was prepared long before we found out

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the probability of life on Mars and this

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policy functions is a clear indication

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that NASA is already aware of biological

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contaminants leaving Earth and

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contaminating other planets and the

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reverse where XO biological life could

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be brought back and destroy the

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biosphere so as Stephen Hawking says hey

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this is going to be like Christopher

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Columbus invading our area or maybe

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killing the Native Americans it doesn't

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mean that Columbus and aliens are going

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to kill us it means that they bring

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diseases with them that most certainly

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could wipe us out and create an

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extinction-level of it triple 8 673

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3,700 that's triple 8 673 3,700 we'll be

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Tim beckley mr. UFO you're on ground

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zero thank you for being here tonight

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well welcome i'm happy to be on the

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clyde how you doing I'm doing okay so

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the announcement about Mars what was

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your first reaction when you heard it

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well you know I've been thinking about

403
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life on Mars since I was a kid you know

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I was born in the late 1940s and Along

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Came all these science fiction movies

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and of course they're the the life forms

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outside of maybe The Day the Earth Stood

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Still they were often very scary very

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monstrous in a lot of cases but I don't

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think we were so well I think it was one

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or two movies that talked about you know

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a contamination and and bringing

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bringing possible germs with them

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because even then the scientists who met

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up with the aliens always see that has

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some sort of protection suit on so i

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guess it was it was more probably in the

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back of our mind in those days where it

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is you know right out in in front but

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you know it's interesting that here on

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one hand nasa and the government says oh

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no there are no aliens there are no

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extraterrestrials here on earth and yet

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on the other hand they have a law that

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the extra-terrestrial exposure law which

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prevents anyone from actually coming in

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contact with either a ship or a bein so

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i guess if you see something the land

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you got to keep your your distance and

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and and you know i don't know you know I

431
00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:54,630
just think again it's kind of a double

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less standard you know we're told one

433
00:20:00,380 --> 00:19:58,410
thing on one hand but yet everybody

434
00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:00,390
wants to meet or at least a lot of

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00:20:03,890 --> 00:20:02,130
people do want to meet extraterrestrial

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life we're hoping that they're not all

437
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you know the size of me but or something

438
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:08,370
but I guess you've got to start

439
00:20:12,830 --> 00:20:10,770
somewhere well and NASA seems you know

440
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:12,840
in ever since but I pointed this out

441
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:14,640
many times ever since we've gotten even

442
00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:16,770
closer to disclosure what feels like

443
00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:19,110
disclosure nASA has always done double

444
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think on us saying yeah it looks like

445
00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:22,500
live oh it's not like don't get your

446
00:20:25,130 --> 00:20:23,460
hopes up all

447
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:25,140
it looks like this all but isn't it and

448
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they do this double standard this double

449
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think thing and of course down Stephen

450
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Hawking is doing the double thing thing

451
00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:32,370
by saying well aliens are going to crush

452
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shows they they they they probably going

453
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to come down here and they're going to

454
00:20:40,010 --> 00:20:37,470
value was like we value bacteria and

455
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stomp us you know into a pulp and then

456
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he turns around he spends a hundred

457
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million dollars along with another

458
00:20:49,870 --> 00:20:45,899
Russian guy to fund SETI so they can

459
00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,880
find extraterrestrials well you know

460
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everybody's looking for a little

461
00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:55,710
attention I think and NASA because of

462
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its needing you know money constantly to

463
00:21:03,289 --> 00:21:00,659
keep the space program going is always

464
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kind kind of pushing you know something

465
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they kind of give us the teaser every

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maybe twice a year when you say I mean

467
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how many times if we heard that nASA has

468
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discovered a planet that's almost

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identical to earth it's like they re

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release the same press I would agree the

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kepler planet stories mean absolutely

472
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nothing to me but but now as we're

473
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dealing with our new ad are close

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neighbor Mars and they're telling us the

475
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water may be up there I'm beginning to

476
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wonder if all this crying wolf has made

477
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everybody you know less aware or even

478
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not caring anymore about what's up there

479
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triple eight 673 3710 beckley with acid

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FM news 101 k XL more with Clyde Lewis

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and ground zero on FM news 10 1 i'm

482
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quite lewis and this is ground zero

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typically is with us tonight mr. UFO

484
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survive on the program and discussing

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the recent announcements the nasa has

486
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given us about Mars the probability of

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life and now extraterrestrial exposure

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laws and also laws and mandates to state

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actually the directives to state that we

490
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have to be more careful and

491
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decontaminate robot spacecraft and what

492
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have you coming down from any

493
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extraterrestrial source would be the

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Moon or Mars and I was reading that

495
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today and I'm thinking this is amazing I

496
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:48,390
don't think a lot of people out there

497
00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:52,870
even understand or know that nASA has

498
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:54,370
these documents and they've been

499
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:56,290
preparing for this all along and that if

500
00:23:00,990 --> 00:22:57,970
you read through their documents they're

501
00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:01,000
already acting as though that life is on

502
00:23:08,790 --> 00:23:06,180
Mars when you say well yes you know our

503
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fascination with Mars though I mean goes

504
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:11,680
way back and talk of water and canals on

505
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Mars about a couple of hundred years old

506
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Percival Lowell right he wrote up a book

507
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as like in 1905 called Mars and the

508
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canals now he was discredited the course

509
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:27,220
they said really that the canals were

510
00:23:32,850 --> 00:23:30,130
nothing more than obstacle optical

511
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:32,860
illusions but maybe they weren't I mean

512
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:36,250
it so it's always been there I was going

513
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to say under the service surface but no

514
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:40,870
pun intended it's it's always been it's

515
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:43,770
always been in the back of our mind that

516
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Mars might have life on it of all the

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planets in the solar system that's

518
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probably at least people feel that's our

519
00:23:56,659 --> 00:23:54,280
best bet I mean even going back to the

520
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greek and roman

521
00:24:03,979 --> 00:23:59,580
what was it Mars was the god of war

522
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:03,989
during the 1940s in the 1950s the

523
00:24:09,729 --> 00:24:06,090
contactees like George Adamski and

524
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:09,739
George Van Tassel they talked of meeting

525
00:24:15,729 --> 00:24:12,450
beings from the planet Mars and going

526
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:15,739
for rides inside of their spaceship so

527
00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:18,090
Mars has always been in our

528
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,070
consciousness I remember when I first

529
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:22,559
met David Bowie for the first time he

530
00:24:28,369 --> 00:24:25,710
was dressed like a Martian at least a

531
00:24:29,989 --> 00:24:28,379
good-looking Martian he wasn't yet a

532
00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:29,999
monstrous or anything at all that was

533
00:24:34,279 --> 00:24:32,580
Ziggy Ziggy Stardust of course and a lot

534
00:24:36,379 --> 00:24:34,289
of his music a lot of music of other

535
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:36,389
groups have centered around the idea of

536
00:24:40,999 --> 00:24:38,220
Mars or intelligent life in outer space

537
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:41,009
so it's been a long time coming but

538
00:24:46,879 --> 00:24:44,220
eventually it's going to be here one way

539
00:24:48,529 --> 00:24:46,889
or the other hopefully it won't be back

540
00:24:51,169 --> 00:24:48,539
you know it won't be bacteria and it

541
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:51,179
won't spread as a germ but you know we

542
00:24:55,340 --> 00:24:53,369
got I think myself we've got to take a

543
00:24:57,619 --> 00:24:55,350
chance I mean why should we take a

544
00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:57,629
backseat to just discovery because we're

545
00:25:02,779 --> 00:25:00,539
worried about something I mean they're

546
00:25:04,099 --> 00:25:02,789
worried worried about that we may have a

547
00:25:05,930 --> 00:25:04,109
hostile beings coming here from

548
00:25:07,609 --> 00:25:05,940
somewhere else but we also might have

549
00:25:10,249 --> 00:25:07,619
been official beings coming here from

550
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:10,259
other planets are we supposed to hide

551
00:25:16,460 --> 00:25:14,580
under no under a rock absolutely not we

552
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:16,470
can profile the aliens speaking of which

553
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:17,700
I mean you mentioned David Bowie Ziggy

554
00:25:21,409 --> 00:25:19,919
Stardust and I've always wondered if we

555
00:25:24,229 --> 00:25:21,419
were gonna have full disclosure on David

556
00:25:26,239 --> 00:25:24,239
Bowie I would say this it's always been

557
00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:26,249
my fantasy they have david bowie call a

558
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:28,350
news conference and all the microphones

559
00:25:32,019 --> 00:25:29,730
are on him and all the pictures are

560
00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:32,029
being sent and he's there with Iman and

561
00:25:37,340 --> 00:25:34,919
you know his his wife and he's standing

562
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:37,350
there with her and and he says I got to

563
00:25:42,139 --> 00:25:40,169
tell you all I brilliant alien my name

564
00:25:44,659 --> 00:25:42,149
is really Ziggy Stardust I fell to earth

565
00:25:46,609 --> 00:25:44,669
and this is my alien companion I and

566
00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:46,619
everybody would believe it I think well

567
00:25:52,249 --> 00:25:49,950
you know David was even as a teenager

568
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:52,259
growing up I did a course of done a

569
00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:53,700
couple of books on celebrities that have

570
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,580
had flying saucer experiences and he's

571
00:26:02,119 --> 00:25:59,039
been at one point he was deeply immersed

572
00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:02,129
in the occult and UFOs not necessarily

573
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:04,139
the good aspect of it he had some hard

574
00:26:09,019 --> 00:26:06,090
times with some possession and exorcism

575
00:26:10,169 --> 00:26:09,029
and and and so forth but as a teenager

576
00:26:13,019 --> 00:26:10,179
living in England

577
00:26:16,139 --> 00:26:13,029
he actually edited a UFO magazine a

578
00:26:19,289 --> 00:26:16,149
newsletter you know and as I understand

579
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:19,299
he had at least three UFO sightings and

580
00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:22,809
he's also was curious about a UFO crash

581
00:26:28,980 --> 00:26:26,200
that took place in the the desert he was

582
00:26:30,629 --> 00:26:28,990
in a hotel room in in Michigan right and

583
00:26:32,639 --> 00:26:30,639
apparently there was an announcement on

584
00:26:34,619 --> 00:26:32,649
TV about something that had landed and

585
00:26:36,749 --> 00:26:34,629
he spoke to everybody in the room about

586
00:26:38,999 --> 00:26:36,759
his fascination with the subject and

587
00:26:40,830 --> 00:26:39,009
about this particular landing now we're

588
00:26:43,409 --> 00:26:40,840
not sure whether it was Roswell door

589
00:26:46,769 --> 00:26:43,419
Kingman or Aztec but he has shown a

590
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:46,779
lively interest in the in the subject in

591
00:26:52,350 --> 00:26:49,090
fact I think you've probably had a grant

592
00:26:54,539 --> 00:26:52,360
Cameron on the program yet yes and of

593
00:26:56,399 --> 00:26:54,549
course he's convinced that the these

594
00:26:59,129 --> 00:26:56,409
extraterrestrials are these aliens are

595
00:27:00,989 --> 00:26:59,139
really using celebrities like David

596
00:27:03,810 --> 00:27:00,999
Bowie and other musicians to get their

597
00:27:05,549 --> 00:27:03,820
message across well and I was reading a

598
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:05,559
while back an interview with the

599
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:10,289
MacTaggart he also has a fascination for

600
00:27:15,450 --> 00:27:13,210
extraterrestrials and UFOs there are a

601
00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:15,460
lot I mean we were just discussing Ron

602
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:17,950
patent my producer and I Billy Corgan

603
00:27:23,009 --> 00:27:20,769
and his fascination with these types of

604
00:27:24,899 --> 00:27:23,019
things and also Prince is expressed his

605
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:24,909
interest in this type of phenomenon and

606
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:27,220
so there are a lot of well-known

607
00:27:31,379 --> 00:27:28,990
celebrities and rock stars at the band

608
00:27:33,509 --> 00:27:31,389
blink-182 of course they written a song

609
00:27:36,299 --> 00:27:33,519
about extraterrestrials and aliens and

610
00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,309
uh you know crosby Stills and Nash did

611
00:27:40,739 --> 00:27:38,799
mr. spaceman I mean everybody seems to

612
00:27:43,169 --> 00:27:40,749
have it's all been a part of the Lord's

613
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:43,179
all been apart has absolutely amaro my

614
00:27:48,509 --> 00:27:45,610
favorite story actually is about Jimi

615
00:27:50,399 --> 00:27:48,519
Hendrix in fact you know the US Postal

616
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,409
the department released the

617
00:27:55,169 --> 00:27:52,480
commemorative stamp with the Jimi

618
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:55,179
Hendrix on it and right over the top of

619
00:28:02,190 --> 00:27:58,480
his head as a UFO beaming down on him

620
00:28:04,739 --> 00:28:02,200
now a member one of the members of his

621
00:28:06,749 --> 00:28:04,749
early group of the Squires was a fella

622
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:06,759
by the name of Curtis Knight in fact he

623
00:28:11,489 --> 00:28:09,369
wrote some of the songs that Jimmy had

624
00:28:15,289 --> 00:28:11,499
performed this would be back in the I

625
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:15,299
guess early mid 60s now according to

626
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:18,940
Curtis who had many conversations with

627
00:28:22,259 --> 00:28:20,740
they were on their way back from

628
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:22,269
Woodstock

629
00:28:26,339 --> 00:28:24,190
night now yeah this wasn't during the

630
00:28:28,859 --> 00:28:26,349
big festival but they were caught in the

631
00:28:31,589 --> 00:28:28,869
middle of a blizzard and they were in a

632
00:28:33,239 --> 00:28:31,599
van there were I guess running what time

633
00:28:34,979 --> 00:28:33,249
wires him we're running out of time and

634
00:28:37,619 --> 00:28:34,989
say 29 we're almost outta time we gotta

635
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,629
go to the the the break 4 News but I

636
00:28:41,219 --> 00:28:39,039
want to hear this story when you back ok

637
00:28:43,499 --> 00:28:41,229
ok I thank you Tim beckley where the Sun

638
00:28:46,919 --> 00:28:43,509
Ground Zero triple-eight 673 3700 will

639
00:28:50,060 --> 00:28:46,929
be back you're listening to ground zero

640
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:50,070
tonight mr. UFO himself

641
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:51,780
this is Jim beckley on the program

642
00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:54,930
tonight discussing a number of things

643
00:28:59,390 --> 00:28:57,180
first off

644
00:29:01,490 --> 00:28:59,400
the NASA announcement about water and

645
00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:01,500
probable life on Mars the follow-up to

646
00:29:07,970 --> 00:29:04,800
that possibility of microbial life being

647
00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:07,980
discovered extraterrestrial exposure

648
00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:12,020
laws that nASA has and documents

649
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:14,420
that mandate the decontamination be a

650
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:16,130
very serious thing was now they're

651
00:29:21,790 --> 00:29:19,490
beginning to reconsider that microbial

652
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:21,800
life could come here and create a

653
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:24,110
problem and that's that's something

654
00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:25,760
that's a most definitely concern here

655
00:29:30,130 --> 00:29:27,830
and also we were talking about rock

656
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:30,140
stars and their connections to aliens

657
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:32,810
and of course I just played that after

658
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:34,700
the gold rush song made famous by Neil

659
00:29:40,330 --> 00:29:37,270
Young and redid by Dolly Parton and

660
00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:40,340
Linda Ronstadt and Emmylou Harris I I

661
00:29:43,930 --> 00:29:41,720
think that versions is beautiful and

662
00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:43,940
it's why I decided play tonight you were

663
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:45,680
saying there was you were talking about

664
00:29:50,140 --> 00:29:47,390
a story before we had to go to the break

665
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:50,150
about some rock stars that you knew of

666
00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:53,570
the word there in a snowstorm oh yes

667
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:56,420
well now in my book Shirley MacLaine

668
00:30:01,630 --> 00:29:58,970
meets the Palladian sigh I talk about

669
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:01,640
them the experience that Jimi Hendrix

670
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:04,970
had it was related to me by his original

671
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:07,610
bass player phila by name of Curtis

672
00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:10,010
Knight in fact I'm solely in touch with

673
00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:11,720
the curtises of wife he passed away

674
00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:14,990
about ten years ago but she still you

675
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:16,760
know it maintains if the story is true

676
00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:19,250
and he related it not only to me but to

677
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:21,080
her as well apparently they were

678
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:22,850
returning from Woodstock as I mentioned

679
00:30:26,170 --> 00:30:24,710
and it was in the middle of a winter has

680
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:26,180
had nothing to do with the festival that

681
00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:28,310
was a couple years later and they were

682
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:30,920
stuck in a blizzard I mean it was the

683
00:30:36,970 --> 00:30:33,770
snow was really coming down and their

684
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:36,980
van got stuck and they got to the point

685
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:39,170
where the van wouldn't move and they

686
00:30:42,940 --> 00:30:40,760
were afraid to keep their the heater on

687
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:42,950
because they might get you know carbon

688
00:30:47,530 --> 00:30:45,650
monoxide in their system and pass out

689
00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:47,540
and goodness knows what might happen to

690
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:50,060
him well now according to Curtis at this

691
00:30:57,910 --> 00:30:54,830
point a rocket shaped object ship landed

692
00:31:01,870 --> 00:30:57,920
near the van that they were in and a

693
00:31:05,530 --> 00:31:01,880
door opened and a ramp came down and on

694
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:05,540
the the ramp was this being angelic

695
00:31:10,150 --> 00:31:07,520
looking being well at least he said it

696
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:10,160
had it had wings at an island jelica it

697
00:31:14,770 --> 00:31:12,470
was but they were not doing drugs or

698
00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:14,780
anything like that according to Curtis

699
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:16,700
in fact he didn't do smoke a little pot

700
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:20,390
maybe but he was not a drug user and the

701
00:31:24,910 --> 00:31:22,730
beam came out and circled the craft a

702
00:31:26,860 --> 00:31:24,920
circle divan that they were in

703
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:26,870
the snow melted all around him and in a

704
00:31:32,620 --> 00:31:28,880
few minutes time they were able to start

705
00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:32,630
the van and drive back to a Manhattan

706
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:36,590
without any further incident now UFOs

707
00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:39,710
did play a important role in Jimmy's

708
00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:42,470
life and in his career in fact there is

709
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:46,280
a rare video out there that was shot in

710
00:31:53,950 --> 00:31:50,510
the mail way he was giving a concert the

711
00:31:55,810 --> 00:31:53,960
the video is called rainbow bridge and

712
00:31:58,450 --> 00:31:55,820
you can find it on youtube its many many

713
00:32:01,870 --> 00:31:58,460
years old of course and after the

714
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:01,880
concert he goes into a sweat lodge I

715
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:03,470
think there's some kind of TP that they

716
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:06,290
have there and he sets a yoga style you

717
00:32:09,910 --> 00:32:08,210
know on the ground and he surrounded by

718
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:09,920
fans and of course these were pretty

719
00:32:15,010 --> 00:32:13,370
much hippies and in those days and he

720
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:15,020
starts rapping about the space brothers

721
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:18,050
and UFOs and reincarnation and he

722
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:20,150
believed in the quite a few of these

723
00:32:24,460 --> 00:32:22,310
other musicians thought that they were

724
00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:24,470
actually star children that they had

725
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:27,350
been placed here on earth during a very

726
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:31,120
critical and important period in our

727
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:34,640
spiritual and physical look gross now I

728
00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:36,050
don't know collide I mean it's an

729
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,270
interesting story and it's certainly a

730
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:41,200
fascinating coming from someone like

731
00:32:48,490 --> 00:32:44,810
Jimi Hendrix but it's not that unusual

732
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:48,500
you know at least back in those days we

733
00:32:53,410 --> 00:32:50,690
had what we could would call the flying

734
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:53,420
saucer or UFO culture it was very

735
00:32:59,920 --> 00:32:56,330
predominant now it appears it's maybe a

736
00:33:02,740 --> 00:32:59,930
little bit more low-key we've gone from

737
00:33:05,890 --> 00:33:02,750
beautiful space beings the Nordic types

738
00:33:07,180 --> 00:33:05,900
of supposedly extraterrestrials i call

739
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:07,190
them altered terrestrials because i

740
00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:09,050
don't know where they they come from but

741
00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:11,150
i am convinced that something is going

742
00:33:16,170 --> 00:33:14,150
on and that there is a strange phenomena

743
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:16,180
here that is worthy of some

744
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:18,710
investigation in fact I'm more prone of

745
00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:20,810
course to be interested in that instead

746
00:33:24,250 --> 00:33:23,000
of spending how many millions of dollars

747
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:24,260
did you say we're spending sending

748
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:26,450
signals into space sending why don't

749
00:33:31,570 --> 00:33:29,330
know well Stephen Hawking and this

750
00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:31,580
Russian millionaire was in spin hundred

751
00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:34,919
million or billion million

752
00:33:37,669 --> 00:33:35,940
they were going to put in a hundred

753
00:33:41,149 --> 00:33:37,679
million and Jack 100 million into

754
00:33:43,549 --> 00:33:41,159
contacting aliens from space and another

755
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,559
thing too I was corrected from Jay Dylan

756
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:45,779
tonight I said something about the TV

757
00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:47,369
screen and one percent of the light on

758
00:33:51,859 --> 00:33:50,039
the TV screen is the Big Bang it's it's

759
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:51,869
kind of incorrect here I was I was just

760
00:33:56,029 --> 00:33:53,850
laughing and I'll be like what it is is

761
00:33:58,999 --> 00:33:56,039
that one percent of the static on the

762
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:59,009
screen is from the Big Bang so it means

763
00:34:01,999 --> 00:34:00,480
a lot different so thank you Jay for

764
00:34:03,710 --> 00:34:02,009
correcting me i was just like i said i

765
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:03,720
was so laughs i was laughing so hard so

766
00:34:07,249 --> 00:34:05,519
embarrassed by not knowing that that i

767
00:34:10,010 --> 00:34:07,259
wanted to share it with everybody and I

768
00:34:11,930 --> 00:34:10,020
kind of shared it wrong so I'm not one

769
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:11,940
not to correct myself on the air now

770
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:13,740
instead no I don't know I don't know if

771
00:34:16,750 --> 00:34:15,450
this size internet but you know there

772
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:16,760
have been a couple of cases where

773
00:34:23,809 --> 00:34:21,089
apparently signals TV signals have

774
00:34:25,819 --> 00:34:23,819
bounced back a decade or two decades

775
00:34:27,289 --> 00:34:25,829
later after they had gone out uh-huh

776
00:34:29,359 --> 00:34:27,299
I've seen that before I've read that

777
00:34:32,089 --> 00:34:29,369
where people have called television

778
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:32,099
stations that aren't real or they've

779
00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:33,770
heard broadcast that never happened

780
00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:35,909
these are ghosts broadcasts in fact it

781
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:38,730
was the inspiration for cult radio which

782
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:39,990
is the name of ground zero before it

783
00:34:45,740 --> 00:34:43,530
changed its name the idea of a country

784
00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:45,750
DJ following asleep or doing a late

785
00:34:50,990 --> 00:34:47,399
night show and hearing alien signals

786
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,000
come over his headphones and he realized

787
00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:53,280
that if he was to have turned off or at

788
00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:55,950
least with dead air there was an it was

789
00:34:59,839 --> 00:34:57,180
a segment of the dead air where you can

790
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:59,849
hear alien voices and he wanted so badly

791
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:01,740
for the whole world to hear these alien

792
00:35:06,319 --> 00:35:02,970
voices that he came up with a theory

793
00:35:09,049 --> 00:35:06,329
that if every radio station and every TV

794
00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:09,059
station every ham radio and CB radio or

795
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:11,460
to turn off for five minutes we would

796
00:35:15,859 --> 00:35:13,200
probably hear the aliens or see them

797
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:15,869
come because we are such a noisy planet

798
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:17,609
that intelligent life would wonder why

799
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:19,440
did everything shut off on that planet

800
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:23,250
what you know wor which is at your onda

801
00:35:29,569 --> 00:35:25,170
Bo are here in New York actually yeah um

802
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:29,579
okay a back in the 1930s actually a shut

803
00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:31,740
door transmitter off for a minute or two

804
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:34,470
there to try an experiment to see if

805
00:35:40,270 --> 00:35:36,569
they could pick up some sort of signal

806
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,280
intelligent or otherwise from Mars now I

807
00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:42,720
don't know how successful the actual

808
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:44,670
picking up the signals were but I have

809
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:48,690
seen a print out of

810
00:35:53,809 --> 00:35:50,670
some sort of diagram that looked like a

811
00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:53,819
face that was somehow it transmitted and

812
00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:56,460
received on a ticker tape and I can't

813
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:59,460
say that it looks like the face on Mars

814
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:02,400
exactly but it was a face right and and

815
00:36:08,569 --> 00:36:04,410
so experiments have been tried along

816
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:08,579
this line also back in the 1970s I said

817
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:12,000
I spent three days at NASA in Washington

818
00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:14,700
DC now I had gone there I was on

819
00:36:19,309 --> 00:36:16,980
assignment for a saga magazine to do an

820
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,319
article on UFO sightings that the

821
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:22,079
astronauts and I must say you know NASA

822
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:23,910
was fairly open to me they showed me

823
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:26,040
they gave me the transcripts you know it

824
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:28,230
was pound and pound in page after page

825
00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:31,290
of manuscript in those days and my

826
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:33,720
associate Harold soulful and I we we SAT

827
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:36,420
there and went through this and we spent

828
00:36:40,940 --> 00:36:39,510
a sentence found some phenomenal you

829
00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:40,950
know sightings that they had or at least

830
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:43,079
things that were could be classified as

831
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:45,300
UFOs and one of the things that was

832
00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:48,000
happening that on several occasions a

833
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:52,440
strange unintelligible language was

834
00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:56,010
being heard and in one case of the song

835
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:00,210
I think where angels fear to tread it

836
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:02,010
was being transmitted and they picked it

837
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:03,900
up on their on their he get on the

838
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:06,089
capsule and of course this is on on

839
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:08,970
closed closed channels which nobody is

840
00:37:12,290 --> 00:37:10,740
supposed to have access to so well are

841
00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:12,300
you aware of he had snowed Neil deGrasse

842
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:14,040
Tyson debate that they had on a podcast

843
00:37:18,609 --> 00:37:16,380
a couple days ago about how Neil

844
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:18,619
deGrasse Tyson asked Snowden whose

845
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:22,050
encryption specialist about aliens and

846
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:24,390
one and he brought it up and stoughton

847
00:37:30,319 --> 00:37:28,410
said that perhaps we have ignored the

848
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:30,329
signals of assent to us through static

849
00:37:34,190 --> 00:37:32,400
that in between the dead spaces of the

850
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:34,200
static which is back to that whole idea

851
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:35,490
of watching the one percent of the

852
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:36,930
static in the screen to see the Big Bang

853
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:39,510
he said would you ever wonder what is in

854
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:41,220
that dead space have you ever cranked it

855
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:44,250
to the gills to hear what may be there

856
00:37:52,099 --> 00:37:48,770
and so i did that i found a recording of

857
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:52,109
a broadcast that was off of an infrared

858
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:54,060
recording system that was on a balloon

859
00:37:58,220 --> 00:37:56,040
that went 22 miles up into the sky and

860
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,230
they thought they were recording ocean

861
00:38:02,299 --> 00:38:00,839
waves or what have you but this guy from

862
00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:02,309
nasa had said this

863
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:03,390
sounded like it was something from the

864
00:38:08,509 --> 00:38:05,729
x-files that when I listen to it at

865
00:38:10,549 --> 00:38:08,519
regular speed it was down in the 20

866
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:10,559
Hertz 22 hurts area but I wouldn't

867
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,660
listen to a regular speed I heard things

868
00:38:16,249 --> 00:38:14,880
in the dead space of the static that I

869
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:16,259
wanted to turn up so I grabbed the

870
00:38:22,609 --> 00:38:19,920
volume I cranked it up and I heard and I

871
00:38:25,759 --> 00:38:22,619
swear I heard what sounded like a

872
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:25,769
rudimentary or communication now it

873
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:27,569
wasn't in English but it certainly

874
00:38:31,809 --> 00:38:29,369
sounded like communication that was

875
00:38:34,249 --> 00:38:31,819
going back and forth from something and

876
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:34,259
it really fascinated me that I heard

877
00:38:37,099 --> 00:38:35,430
that I was playing it for people people

878
00:38:38,539 --> 00:38:37,109
thought I was crazy but that I played it

879
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:38,549
on the air the other night and people

880
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:40,529
were beginning to hear this conversation

881
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,170
and then comes the NASA announcement and

882
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:45,119
I'm thinking wow this is all being timed

883
00:38:48,949 --> 00:38:47,160
out in such a way where we may have

884
00:38:50,839 --> 00:38:48,959
found communication Snowden deGrasse

885
00:38:53,059 --> 00:38:50,849
Tyson talked about this we have the

886
00:38:54,589 --> 00:38:53,069
announcement and now we're talking about

887
00:38:56,329 --> 00:38:54,599
microbial life and how it may be

888
00:38:58,519 --> 00:38:56,339
dangerous with these new documents that

889
00:39:01,039 --> 00:38:58,529
NASA is issued it just seems to me this

890
00:39:04,099 --> 00:39:01,049
is all going according to plan what you

891
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:04,109
don't ham operators for four years for

892
00:39:10,099 --> 00:39:06,569
decades had been receiving all sorts of

893
00:39:12,859 --> 00:39:10,109
signals and voices on their receivers

894
00:39:14,839 --> 00:39:12,869
right in fact Barry Goldwater who of

895
00:39:18,259 --> 00:39:14,849
course was a believer in UFOs and wanted

896
00:39:20,749 --> 00:39:18,269
to find out what was inside hangar 18

897
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:20,759
and they inside the blue room and they

898
00:39:24,890 --> 00:39:22,410
told them you know if he ever mentioned

899
00:39:28,429 --> 00:39:24,900
it again he'd be in serious trouble he

900
00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:28,439
was a ham ham radio operator she was a

901
00:39:33,859 --> 00:39:30,920
ham radio operator and he was picking up

902
00:39:36,439 --> 00:39:33,869
mysterious signals on a certain

903
00:39:39,529 --> 00:39:36,449
bandwidth for for many many months now

904
00:39:40,669 --> 00:39:39,539
also up Peter we'd go to it we got to go

905
00:39:43,069 --> 00:39:40,679
to break right now and we'll be right

906
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:43,079
back we'll be right back it will Tim

907
00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:44,910
Beck way keep it here on Ground Zero FM

908
00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:47,369
news 101

909
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:50,799
the conversation is now he headed in the

910
00:39:58,140 --> 00:39:53,170
direction of alien transmissions or the

911
00:40:01,220 --> 00:39:58,150
idea of alien ham radios and all this

912
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:01,230
and I wanted to play for you Tim that

913
00:40:06,569 --> 00:40:04,089
that sequence I was telling about about

914
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:06,579
the balloon suddenly that some 22 miles

915
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:08,410
up now I want you to listen carefully

916
00:40:14,849 --> 00:40:12,720
because what I did is I took a simple

917
00:40:17,970 --> 00:40:14,859
recording that was from this NASA

918
00:40:19,230 --> 00:40:17,980
experiment and at first it was like just

919
00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:19,240
hearing the static you'll hear the

920
00:40:24,329 --> 00:40:22,420
static but between the static bursts I

921
00:40:27,059 --> 00:40:24,339
managed to take the dead space and I

922
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:27,069
cranked it as loud as I could so you can

923
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:28,900
hear what was between the burst and what

924
00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:32,410
you'll hear in my opinion sounds like

925
00:41:16,099 --> 00:40:34,660
alien transmission now listen to this

926
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:20,700
so do you ma'am spooky I I would say

927
00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:23,710
just downright spooky now okay you have

928
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,030
an example there it's about what a

929
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:26,800
little bit less than a minute long how

930
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:29,680
long were you trying to capture the

931
00:41:34,859 --> 00:41:32,079
sound well I captured there was the

932
00:41:36,750 --> 00:41:34,869
segment itself was about a minute or so

933
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:36,760
they only provided about a minute or so

934
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,770
so I took the first segment I couldn't

935
00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:40,000
find the first ever the first segment

936
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,670
when I played it I cranked up the the

937
00:41:47,819 --> 00:41:45,040
middle volume on it I heard what sounded

938
00:41:50,579 --> 00:41:47,829
like this really wavy kind of siren

939
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:50,589
sound as if it was like a warnings kind

940
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:53,410
of like how we do the the emergency

941
00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:56,230
alert alert system where the we do the

942
00:41:59,640 --> 00:41:58,180
EAS tone it sound like it wasn't any

943
00:42:02,490 --> 00:41:59,650
asked home but it was like a clearing

944
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,500
tone where you hear it was kind of a

945
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,720
wide and then lower and then it got a

946
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:06,400
little wider and it got a little louder

947
00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:09,310
and then I thought well you know I don't

948
00:42:13,050 --> 00:42:10,839
hear any communication there but what I

949
00:42:14,430 --> 00:42:13,060
do here is this ability or this this

950
00:42:17,609 --> 00:42:14,440
moment I think where they were clearing

951
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:17,619
the channel and then I I then went and I

952
00:42:22,290 --> 00:42:19,560
found the other static piece and I upped

953
00:42:25,530 --> 00:42:22,300
the the segments in between the clicks

954
00:42:28,589 --> 00:42:25,540
and the Pops and I heard what sounded

955
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:28,599
like attempts at bringing down some

956
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:32,020
strange data and loop or data feed or

957
00:42:35,550 --> 00:42:34,390
something and it sounded intelligent to

958
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:35,560
me it sounded like that there was

959
00:42:39,930 --> 00:42:37,270
something in between the static as

960
00:42:41,849 --> 00:42:39,940
Snowden said and Neil deGrasse Tyson

961
00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:41,859
said if you listen closely you may be

962
00:42:46,050 --> 00:42:43,540
able to pick up on what could be

963
00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:46,060
encrypted alien language and it's buried

964
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:48,790
in the static well there's there was

965
00:42:52,620 --> 00:42:50,950
seemed like there was actually one word

966
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:52,630
I mean I don't know how you would I

967
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:55,150
isolate it but at one point there was

968
00:42:59,490 --> 00:42:56,530
something that seemed a little bit

969
00:43:03,839 --> 00:42:59,500
beyond what else you know there were the

970
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:03,849
rest of the information right was being

971
00:43:09,420 --> 00:43:05,530
transmitted but you know of course this

972
00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:09,430
is kind of reminiscent of the EVP the

973
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,740
electronic voice phenomena which people

974
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,079
of course think that or at least the

975
00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:17,200
going them a theory is that these are

976
00:43:20,850 --> 00:43:19,150
the voices from people on the other side

977
00:43:22,980 --> 00:43:20,860
we have no way of proving that real they

978
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:22,990
could be voices from other planets that

979
00:43:28,140 --> 00:43:24,610
could be voices from other dimension

980
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:28,150
they could be voices from the the future

981
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:31,690
or they could be generated by the earth

982
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:33,910
itself and I actually let a study Tim

983
00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:36,550
that no matter where you are no matter

984
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:39,160
where you go you will always if you have

985
00:43:44,010 --> 00:43:42,010
a recorder will pick up EVP so you don't

986
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,020
have to be in a haunted place it'll

987
00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:45,760
doubt those voices and that's what once

988
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:47,860
again throws a lot of the paranormal

989
00:43:52,740 --> 00:43:50,410
investigations into a quandary what am i

990
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:52,750
listening to if I'm doing EVP if this is

991
00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:54,730
not void if these are not voices from

992
00:43:58,980 --> 00:43:56,950
the other side that are they voices from

993
00:44:02,730 --> 00:43:58,990
another dimension or are they voices

994
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:02,740
from space and this is a very good point

995
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:04,930
Tim and we got to go to break but yeah I

996
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:06,370
mean you're listening to that and you're

997
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:08,320
hearing this kind of static and

998
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,390
conversation you don't know exactly

999
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:12,400
what's happening because we've never had

1000
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:14,830
anything to compare it to no aliens to

1001
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:16,750
compare it to nothing else because we

1002
00:44:21,060 --> 00:44:18,910
haven't been able to get access to that

1003
00:44:23,580 --> 00:44:21,070
data in soon with the announcement that

1004
00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:23,590
nASA has made we may find ourselves in a

1005
00:44:28,170 --> 00:44:26,020
situation where we can recognize these

1006
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:28,180
things a whole lot more and understand

1007
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:29,650
these directives that they're proposing

1008
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:40,280
as president from zero is indeed

1009
00:44:57,050 --> 00:44:44,190
essential the radio is essential to the

1010
00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:03,749
Peter spoke up and said wish

1011
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:05,680
allowed fingers

1012
00:45:37,810 --> 00:45:44,849
I'm quite Lewis and this is ground zero

1013
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:47,489
tonight Tim beckley is with us mr. UFO

1014
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:49,980
we're talking about a number of things

1015
00:45:57,089 --> 00:45:53,440
the consecutive pattern we've seeing in

1016
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:57,099
you know the Pope the aliens then from

1017
00:46:02,220 --> 00:46:00,400
the Pope and aliens to messages being

1018
00:46:03,839 --> 00:46:02,230
discussed with neil degrasse tyson and

1019
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:03,849
had snowden from that to the NASA

1020
00:46:08,970 --> 00:46:07,630
announcement and Stephen Hawking again

1021
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:08,980
coming forward and saying what he said

1022
00:46:14,099 --> 00:46:12,880
about aliens would crush us and yet he's

1023
00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:14,109
giving one hundred million dollars for

1024
00:46:17,579 --> 00:46:15,480
something called breakthrough listen

1025
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,589
which I say is some sort of dubious

1026
00:46:23,579 --> 00:46:19,839
paradox here I don't know how to take

1027
00:46:28,229 --> 00:46:23,589
this but then NASA another this is in

1028
00:46:33,210 --> 00:46:28,239
the sequence nASA has this file it's

1029
00:46:34,589 --> 00:46:33,220
NASA policy directive 8020 dot 7g it's

1030
00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:34,599
the office of NASA's science Mission

1031
00:46:38,910 --> 00:46:37,180
Directorate it's issued a policy on

1032
00:46:41,759 --> 00:46:38,920
planetary protection requirements for

1033
00:46:45,089 --> 00:46:41,769
humanistic rest real missions I'm going

1034
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:45,099
to read the policy again and I want to

1035
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:47,470
make it clear that this indicates to me

1036
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:51,220
that this functions as I think proof

1037
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:54,880
that they are already leaning towards

1038
00:46:58,799 --> 00:46:56,710
the probability of life the conduct of

1039
00:47:01,170 --> 00:46:58,809
scientific investigations of possible

1040
00:47:04,229 --> 00:47:01,180
extraterrestrial life-forms precursors

1041
00:47:06,059 --> 00:47:04,239
and remnants must not be jeopardized in

1042
00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:06,069
addition the earth must be protected

1043
00:47:10,289 --> 00:47:07,869
from the potential hazard posed by

1044
00:47:12,450 --> 00:47:10,299
extraterrestrial matter carried by

1045
00:47:14,009 --> 00:47:12,460
spacecraft returning from another planet

1046
00:47:16,259 --> 00:47:14,019
or other extraterrestrial sources

1047
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:16,269
therefore for certain space mission

1048
00:47:20,489 --> 00:47:18,880
target planet combinations controls on

1049
00:47:23,039 --> 00:47:20,499
organic and biological contamination

1050
00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:23,049
carried by spacecraft shall be imposed

1051
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:24,940
in accordance with directives

1052
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:27,190
implementing this policy the provisions

1053
00:47:32,009 --> 00:47:29,650
of this directive cover all spaceflight

1054
00:47:33,569 --> 00:47:32,019
missions robotic and human which may

1055
00:47:35,249 --> 00:47:33,579
intentionally or unintentionally carry

1056
00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:35,259
earth organisms and organic constituents

1057
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:37,960
to the planets or other solar system

1058
00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:40,329
bodies and any mission employing

1059
00:47:46,650 --> 00:47:42,220
spacecraft which are intended to return

1060
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:46,660
to Earth and or its biosphere from

1061
00:47:52,019 --> 00:47:48,690
extraterrestrial targets of exploration

1062
00:47:55,999 --> 00:47:52,029
which once again I tell you they are

1063
00:47:58,020 --> 00:47:56,009
already preparing for life more

1064
00:48:00,000 --> 00:47:58,030
microbial life

1065
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:00,010
and there was always a concern and I

1066
00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:01,090
think I was the concern of Stephen

1067
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:02,230
Hawking when he made a statement about

1068
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:04,210
the aliens but there's also a group

1069
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:05,110
called the International Committee

1070
00:48:10,110 --> 00:48:07,060
Against Mars sample return right cams

1071
00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:10,120
are very DiGregorio is the president of

1072
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:11,590
this group they're an advocacy group of

1073
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:13,720
science of actually scientists who

1074
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:15,490
campaigned against Mars sample return

1075
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:18,070
the committee was found in the year 2000

1076
00:48:21,420 --> 00:48:19,660
they have been quoted in the news

1077
00:48:24,060 --> 00:48:21,430
stories and books discussing these types

1078
00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:24,070
of missions the I kamzor Charter states

1079
00:48:28,830 --> 00:48:26,740
that their main goal is that samples

1080
00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:28,840
should be certified safe in space first

1081
00:48:33,420 --> 00:48:31,030
before they return to Earth basically

1082
00:48:35,070 --> 00:48:33,430
setting up a lab either on Mars on the

1083
00:48:39,540 --> 00:48:35,080
moon or on the International Space

1084
00:48:41,460 --> 00:48:39,550
Station so that they can test this life

1085
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:41,470
or whatever may be and not bring us into

1086
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:43,930
peril with a biological contamination

1087
00:48:48,540 --> 00:48:46,930
that make it may harm the biosphere so

1088
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:48,550
the question I have is if you were a

1089
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,370
scientist would you take the chance

1090
00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:52,720
having the entire Earth infected with a

1091
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:54,670
microbial life form would you require

1092
00:48:59,490 --> 00:48:57,400
that a lab be constructed to actually in

1093
00:49:00,930 --> 00:48:59,500
space to analyze this life or would you

1094
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:00,940
take the chance of bringing the micro

1095
00:49:04,530 --> 00:49:02,950
back and having a died in transit which

1096
00:49:05,790 --> 00:49:04,540
would once again probably negate the

1097
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:05,800
whole thing any way of proving there's

1098
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:07,810
life out there Tim what do you think you

1099
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:09,550
do in this case what do you think it

1100
00:49:17,490 --> 00:49:13,480
should be wise to maybe build a lab in

1101
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:17,500
space or at least install a more I guess

1102
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:19,330
in improved lab on the eye on the

1103
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,480
International Space Station well you

1104
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:24,880
know how long is it going to be before

1105
00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:27,250
you we have the capability to do

1106
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:29,560
something like that I mean we're talking

1107
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:32,070
about landing on Mars with a you know

1108
00:49:40,530 --> 00:49:37,260
earthly occupants and what 20 30 20 40

1109
00:49:43,590 --> 00:49:40,540
it just seems like an awful long time

1110
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,600
now you know there have been incidences

1111
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:46,720
throughout a history of bacteria and

1112
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:49,570
germs that killed the large numbers of

1113
00:49:55,890 --> 00:49:53,110
people in fact I think in the 13 the the

1114
00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:55,900
1300s there was the black plague that

1115
00:50:00,090 --> 00:49:57,910
killed was 40 million people in Europe

1116
00:50:02,190 --> 00:50:00,100
and there are some people who associated

1117
00:50:04,260 --> 00:50:02,200
with mysterious lights in the skies and

1118
00:50:09,180 --> 00:50:04,270
figures on the ground with sickles and

1119
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:09,190
and so forth but you know our ability to

1120
00:50:14,380 --> 00:50:10,160
handle

1121
00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:14,390
germs and bacteria has certainly come a

1122
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:17,240
long way since then I mean obviously we

1123
00:50:23,650 --> 00:50:21,110
quarantine people with Ebola and and and

1124
00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:23,660
so forth so I don't know you know take a

1125
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:26,180
chance what's the chances that it could

1126
00:50:31,590 --> 00:50:28,850
contaminate earth i would say myself i

1127
00:50:34,210 --> 00:50:31,600
would feel that it would be a small

1128
00:50:37,060 --> 00:50:34,220
possibility worth the chance yeah if we

1129
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:37,070
took the necessary precautions but i

1130
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:38,690
mean when it when is this going to

1131
00:50:42,850 --> 00:50:40,520
happen i probably i won't be around to

1132
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:42,860
to see you that you won't be around but

1133
00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:45,710
i might be and see this is the thing I I

1134
00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:48,430
would say this we don't know and

1135
00:50:53,790 --> 00:50:50,900
somebody made the comment i can lean

1136
00:50:56,620 --> 00:50:53,800
towards this comment that may be me the

1137
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:56,630
life up there may be a lot like our life

1138
00:51:02,830 --> 00:50:59,290
up there but the truth is life time here

1139
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:02,840
bacterial life but there are certain

1140
00:51:07,450 --> 00:51:04,730
forms of bacteria and microbial life

1141
00:51:10,210 --> 00:51:07,460
that exists in chile that are in brine

1142
00:51:12,190 --> 00:51:10,220
water in in in a desert area very arid

1143
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:12,200
area and they are extreme of files and

1144
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,730
they can live under these extreme

1145
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:16,640
conditions and they're not dangerous but

1146
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:18,710
are we seeing the same type of thing up

1147
00:51:22,990 --> 00:51:21,170
there do we worry about contaminating i

1148
00:51:25,690 --> 00:51:23,000
mean they must really have a worry of

1149
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:25,700
contamination of either Mars or our

1150
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:27,890
planet due to the fact I mean you

1151
00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:31,310
remember that the pneumonia virus lived

1152
00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:33,980
on the limb on the moon for quite some

1153
00:51:38,620 --> 00:51:35,390
time because one of the assets has

1154
00:51:40,450 --> 00:51:38,630
happened to have a cough and it remained

1155
00:51:41,950 --> 00:51:40,460
in the lamp for a long time but one of

1156
00:51:44,430 --> 00:51:41,960
it was one of the astronauts have

1157
00:51:48,490 --> 00:51:44,440
detected the virus when they returned

1158
00:51:51,130 --> 00:51:48,500
you know we have also here in recent

1159
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:51,140
weeks in the New York area a rien

1160
00:51:55,660 --> 00:51:54,260
surgeons of the Legionnaires disease and

1161
00:51:57,580 --> 00:51:55,670
you know originally they were saying it

1162
00:51:59,920 --> 00:51:57,590
was part of the contamination the water

1163
00:52:01,930 --> 00:51:59,930
towers and stuff like this but they sent

1164
00:52:04,270 --> 00:52:01,940
inspectors out to every building with a

1165
00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:04,280
water tower and examine it all and it's

1166
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:06,590
still cropping up so you know there are

1167
00:52:11,020 --> 00:52:09,170
plenty of diseases here to worry about

1168
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:11,030
now what's the possibility that

1169
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:12,770
something like that could be analyzed

1170
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:15,170
were why it were while it was actually

1171
00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:17,450
still on Mars do we necessarily have to

1172
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:20,300
bring it back do we have the capability

1173
00:52:23,650 --> 00:52:21,770
of study it right there on the ground

1174
00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:23,660
right I

1175
00:52:28,299 --> 00:52:25,760
I think maybe we should if not having a

1176
00:52:29,770 --> 00:52:28,309
robot do it so nobody's in danger well

1177
00:52:31,809 --> 00:52:29,780
absolutely that would be the first step

1178
00:52:35,289 --> 00:52:31,819
because they're they're not likely to

1179
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:35,299
bring it back anytime soon right yeah I

1180
00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:36,890
mean see these are some things I'm sure

1181
00:52:39,609 --> 00:52:38,329
NASA's already thought of especially

1182
00:52:41,289 --> 00:52:39,619
with these new directorates I was

1183
00:52:42,940 --> 00:52:41,299
reading about earlier let's go to Robert

1184
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:42,950
and Virginia hi Robert you're on with

1185
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:46,910
Tim Beck we go ahead hi are you doing

1186
00:52:55,799 --> 00:52:50,180
good you're on the air all right yeah I

1187
00:52:58,960 --> 00:52:55,809
just you know I mama Cherokee Indian and

1188
00:53:02,940 --> 00:52:58,970
disease is what killed our people off

1189
00:53:06,099 --> 00:53:02,950
but when Europeans came across pond yes

1190
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:06,109
it wasn't their technology it wasn't it

1191
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:08,450
wasn't nothing else it was busies sure

1192
00:53:14,829 --> 00:53:11,930
so Mike I sir my concern is a you know

1193
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:14,839
we contact alien so we go to Mars we go

1194
00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:18,079
to wherever that's that is a big concern

1195
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:20,980
how many lives are we willing sacrifice

1196
00:53:29,049 --> 00:53:26,690
to learn a lesson you know 1971 the

1197
00:53:32,010 --> 00:53:29,059
Mariner project showed the same thing as

1198
00:53:36,460 --> 00:53:32,020
their show on today exactly life of ours

1199
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:36,470
yes why is it taking 43 years for them

1200
00:53:41,859 --> 00:53:39,410
to say okay hey there's a possibility to

1201
00:53:46,029 --> 00:53:41,869
let this you know let's society know

1202
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:46,039
that you know 43 years later we had the

1203
00:53:51,609 --> 00:53:49,730
technology in 1974 to be in Mars I agree

1204
00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:51,619
with you and I'm out there yeah well and

1205
00:53:55,450 --> 00:53:53,240
another thing too is when Gilbert Levin

1206
00:53:57,700 --> 00:53:55,460
said that there was life on Mars they

1207
00:54:00,760 --> 00:53:57,710
basically dismissed him and he had proof

1208
00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:00,770
and of course the the one discovery

1209
00:54:05,529 --> 00:54:02,920
where they found that fossilized life on

1210
00:54:07,809 --> 00:54:05,539
Martian rocks and even President Clinton

1211
00:54:09,460 --> 00:54:07,819
said this is an amazing fine in the NASA

1212
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,470
dismissed it and see that's another

1213
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:11,839
thing too we asked about the timing

1214
00:54:16,569 --> 00:54:13,849
Robert and you're so right about this

1215
00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:16,579
the timing seems a little peculiar don't

1216
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:21,589
you think yes it does and you know I'm

1217
00:54:28,029 --> 00:54:24,079
on the firm believer and a lot of things

1218
00:54:33,940 --> 00:54:28,039
but I hold on to my native american to

1219
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:33,950
neo beliefs you know word that word

1220
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:36,650
we're in the 6th reign of man the fifth

1221
00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:37,730
brain handed

1222
00:54:45,970 --> 00:54:41,600
only 12 and so now we're in the serious

1223
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:45,980
it is a 6-3 in of man going to be on

1224
00:54:52,810 --> 00:54:48,910
Mars you know the Sun has a soul cycle

1225
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:52,820
the Sun is a living being and it's

1226
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:54,770
living and dying just like the rest of

1227
00:55:00,910 --> 00:54:57,650
us yeah this started out started out

1228
00:55:03,010 --> 00:55:00,920
cold it's getting hotter yes so all we

1229
00:55:05,740 --> 00:55:03,020
like oh we like jumping from rock to

1230
00:55:07,630 --> 00:55:05,750
rock now well I mean we might have to

1231
00:55:09,730 --> 00:55:07,640
but that's the whole point we may have

1232
00:55:11,260 --> 00:55:09,740
to I mean you know with all the climate

1233
00:55:12,490 --> 00:55:11,270
scares they've been giving us with all

1234
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:12,500
the things they've been telling us a

1235
00:55:19,060 --> 00:55:16,010
breakaway civilization has always been

1236
00:55:21,490 --> 00:55:19,070
in the cards and it'll be the elite that

1237
00:55:22,990 --> 00:55:21,500
will have the money and the ability to

1238
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:23,000
go into these space rockets that are

1239
00:55:29,260 --> 00:55:25,520
pretty much buses that they can take to

1240
00:55:32,380 --> 00:55:29,270
either the Moon or Mars and so the time

1241
00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:32,390
is short of the time to think about

1242
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:35,540
getting off the rock and probably saving

1243
00:55:39,730 --> 00:55:37,940
oneself is far more intriguing now than

1244
00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:39,740
it's ever been and I think that we need

1245
00:55:44,020 --> 00:55:42,140
to be aware that this one once again be

1246
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:44,030
an option for those of us who don't want

1247
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:45,230
to stay on the planet you do want to

1248
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:48,290
endure a possible cataclysm or something

1249
00:55:54,570 --> 00:55:51,520
that has been in the works for some time

1250
00:55:56,790 --> 00:55:54,580
I i agree with you a hundred percent and

1251
00:55:59,660 --> 00:55:56,800
you know i never believed that to see

1252
00:56:02,850 --> 00:55:59,670
this in my life signs we made er uh I

1253
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:02,860
have it either and uh and I and I think

1254
00:56:07,290 --> 00:56:05,710
it once again I I just I'm amazed that

1255
00:56:10,170 --> 00:56:07,300
we're even talking about the subject uh

1256
00:56:11,310 --> 00:56:10,180
you know Tim and myself you know we've

1257
00:56:12,570 --> 00:56:11,320
been talking about this for years and as

1258
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:12,580
he said the beginning the program I've

1259
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:16,120
always known that Mars has probably had

1260
00:56:19,710 --> 00:56:18,370
life on it we've been told this water or

1261
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:19,720
whatever for some time we've been

1262
00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:22,690
intrigued by it triple eight 673 3700

1263
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:25,180
that's triple eight 603 3700 Tim

1264
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:26,710
Beckley's with us to that on ground zero

1265
00:56:41,420 --> 00:56:29,110
I need your phone calls shriveling 673

1266
00:57:00,839 --> 00:56:44,010
you're listening to ground zero with

1267
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:00,849
Clyde Lewis on FM news 101 I'm Todd

1268
00:57:04,980 --> 00:57:02,710
Lewis this is ground zero Tim beckley

1269
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:04,990
with us mr. UFO on the program and we're

1270
00:57:09,690 --> 00:57:07,780
going to go to TJ and Rhode Island I TJ

1271
00:57:11,849 --> 00:57:09,700
you're on ground zero What's in back oh

1272
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:11,859
hi Clyde I love the show but this is a

1273
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,290
variation very much of your Ebola show

1274
00:57:19,319 --> 00:57:16,480
if you remember can be there you will

1275
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:19,329
wondering about if about bringing people

1276
00:57:24,150 --> 00:57:22,510
here because again killer bees Clyde you

1277
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:24,160
cannot bring something that is not

1278
00:57:29,370 --> 00:57:27,130
indigenous to another location and as

1279
00:57:31,049 --> 00:57:29,380
far as I'm concerned anybody who leaves

1280
00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:31,059
the planet should kiss it goodbye

1281
00:57:36,059 --> 00:57:33,040
because they're not even taking into

1282
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:36,069
account things like mutations within

1283
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:39,369
earth originated viruses earth

1284
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:43,150
originated microbes yees uh bacteria

1285
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:45,640
whether or not they end up mutating by

1286
00:57:50,220 --> 00:57:48,040
combining with the the the

1287
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:50,230
extra-terrestrial type right and you

1288
00:57:54,210 --> 00:57:52,210
know anyway the third one and then

1289
00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:54,220
jumping species should oppose you bring

1290
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,849
something back that is not necessarily

1291
00:58:00,839 --> 00:57:59,200
lethal to you but then you give it to

1292
00:58:02,819 --> 00:58:00,849
your dog and your dog gives it to your

1293
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:02,829
cat your attack is it to the Burdick try

1294
00:58:06,539 --> 00:58:04,930
to catch outside right now four days

1295
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,549
later you're gonna end up with no snakes

1296
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:09,040
on the planet or no you you know and

1297
00:58:14,609 --> 00:58:10,690
that's it that's an excellent excellent

1298
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:14,619
a thing you talking about because I see

1299
00:58:19,710 --> 00:58:17,680
this and Tim remember hg wells War the

1300
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:19,720
world story and how the aliens were

1301
00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:22,960
killed yeah they were killed by our own

1302
00:58:26,099 --> 00:58:24,700
bacteria was our it was it was the

1303
00:58:28,530 --> 00:58:26,109
little things that God had made

1304
00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:28,540
according to wells they'd killed the

1305
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:32,380
aliens and and I go it go ahead rate up

1306
00:58:36,359 --> 00:58:34,990
bacteria that's directly lethal to them

1307
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:36,369
now I'm talking about things that take

1308
00:58:41,549 --> 00:58:38,950
three species to mutate before they

1309
00:58:43,530 --> 00:58:41,559
become lethal to you write and edit or

1310
00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:43,540
something that has to mate or be

1311
00:58:49,319 --> 00:58:46,030
infected say uh bacteria by an alien

1312
00:58:52,410 --> 00:58:49,329
virus then you even go three species

1313
00:58:55,010 --> 00:58:52,420
away before it becomes lethal to you

1314
00:58:56,820 --> 00:58:55,020
you know once you forget I was gonna say

1315
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:56,830
intimidated you know I don't know how

1316
00:59:01,620 --> 00:58:59,050
you feel on this but you know doesn't

1317
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:01,630
this take away the romanticism of aliens

1318
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:03,040
I mean we have to be practical my

1319
00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:06,220
correct me yes and no because if

1320
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:08,590
somebody is able to leave their planet

1321
00:59:13,530 --> 00:59:11,290
how many millions or hundreds of

1322
00:59:16,110 --> 00:59:13,540
millions of light-years you and I are

1323
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:16,120
incapable of understanding what level of

1324
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:19,510
technology they have for one and two we

1325
00:59:24,090 --> 00:59:21,160
also don't know what their immune system

1326
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:24,100
is like for example you remember Star

1327
00:59:30,350 --> 00:59:27,730
Trek Voyager with species 8472 the one

1328
00:59:33,090 --> 00:59:30,360
that the board couldn't co-opt right

1329
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,100
well they might be a species like that

1330
00:59:37,860 --> 00:59:36,160
where they can travel around but we

1331
00:59:40,350 --> 00:59:37,870
would not be in the same enviable

1332
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:40,360
position or what about the aliens from

1333
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:42,490
alien acid blood we end up you know

1334
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:44,890
melting ourselves we try to kill it or

1335
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:46,720
dissected I mean see that's the thing is

1336
00:59:50,010 --> 00:59:48,880
that you know there's a lot of there's a

1337
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:50,020
lot of things have been covered in

1338
00:59:53,970 --> 00:59:51,970
science fiction that we haven't taken

1339
00:59:56,430 --> 00:59:53,980
into consideration but I don't really

1340
01:00:00,120 --> 00:59:56,440
feel that we have explored the idea of

1341
01:00:01,470 --> 01:00:00,130
microbial alien life maybe the x-files

1342
01:00:03,570 --> 01:00:01,480
fight the future did when they talked

1343
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:03,580
about the black oil and they said it was

1344
01:00:06,780 --> 01:00:04,960
a virus that mutated in the

1345
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:06,790
well-manicured man set Mulder down and

1346
01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:08,530
said you're extraterrestrials

1347
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:10,990
extraterrestrials Mulder has been a

1348
01:00:15,390 --> 01:00:12,850
virus has been around since the caveman

1349
01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:15,400
walked the planet yeah but now even

1350
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:17,380
thinks of those or something similar to

1351
01:00:22,950 --> 01:00:20,890
that that ends up being uh the type that

1352
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:22,960
is utilized by plants and ends up in the

1353
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:25,030
food supply because it's not airborne

1354
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:27,970
it's not necessarily waterborne but it's

1355
01:00:32,610 --> 01:00:30,730
it exists within the mineral content and

1356
01:00:35,220 --> 01:00:32,620
has taken up and then it affects you

1357
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:35,230
well there's always been that fear and

1358
01:00:38,460 --> 01:00:36,850
and TJ I think maybe you would be aware

1359
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:38,470
this as well there's always been that

1360
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:40,480
fear that contact with aliens or even

1361
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:44,050
alien life-forms microbial life uh if it

1362
01:00:48,090 --> 01:00:46,330
was on a grander scale could easily

1363
01:00:50,490 --> 01:00:48,100
bring about an extinction-level event

1364
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:50,500
and more legally and we don't even know

1365
01:00:53,850 --> 01:00:52,450
if the extinction level event has

1366
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:53,860
happened when we have the abduction

1367
01:00:59,400 --> 01:00:56,170
cases because ever since the abduction

1368
01:01:02,850 --> 01:00:59,410
cases we've had strange diseases befall

1369
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:02,860
us anything from AIDS HIV to bovine

1370
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:05,280
spongiform encephalopathy to

1371
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:08,250
you know mad cow disease to Morgellons

1372
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,050
disease I mean all these things that

1373
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:12,000
happened after the so-called alien

1374
01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:14,130
abduction phenomena and and and that

1375
01:01:18,350 --> 01:01:16,350
would say to me that perhaps we've

1376
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:18,360
already come in contact with some alien

1377
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:20,490
diseases and these alien diseases are

1378
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:22,170
now with us we're trying to cure them

1379
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:24,090
and we're trying to remedy the problem

1380
01:01:28,790 --> 01:01:27,090
as best we can yeah 9am i agree with you

1381
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:28,800
one hundred percent because every time I

1382
01:01:34,460 --> 01:01:30,690
look up and I see a contrail all i can

1383
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:34,470
think of it those are spices exactly TJ

1384
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:37,650
any comments before we go to break um no

1385
01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:39,810
that was all yeah one other one is he's

1386
01:01:45,710 --> 01:01:42,750
not a hypocrite because dr. Hawke uh the

1387
01:01:48,740 --> 01:01:45,720
hawkins hawkins could actually be more

1388
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:48,750
honestly say by saying i am listening i

1389
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:51,510
am not trying to contact on these but

1390
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:55,290
it's semantics man it's also me oh no no

1391
01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:57,330
because it says listen he doesn't want

1392
01:02:00,020 --> 01:01:58,650
to speak to them he just wants to know

1393
01:02:04,670 --> 01:02:00,030
where they are so he can walk the other

1394
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:04,680
way or roll the other way you know I've

1395
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:06,330
never heard explained in such a way that

1396
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:09,480
makes me smile PJ I really thank you for

1397
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:11,610
coming on the program tonight alright

1398
01:02:14,690 --> 01:02:13,050
will you keep that in mind and remember

1399
01:02:16,670 --> 01:02:14,700
like I would say to everybody i

1400
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:16,680
genuinely like i hope the good gets

1401
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:18,780
better in the bag gets law ah that's

1402
01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:20,850
very good DJ thank you for the call very

1403
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:23,220
good call from TJ you know Timmy maybe

1404
01:02:26,780 --> 01:02:24,930
that's true i mean i've been saying that

1405
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:26,790
the whole time and Stephen Hawking has

1406
01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:29,010
created this dubious paradox but it's

1407
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:31,350
true maybe he is trying to contact them

1408
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:33,330
so it gets the idea to get the hell out

1409
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:35,010
of dodge by rolling away somewhere in

1410
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:37,050
hiding so the aliens don't come and eat

1411
01:02:43,370 --> 01:02:40,490
him well you know somehow I cannot take

1412
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:43,380
such a negative view here I mean if we

1413
01:02:48,050 --> 01:02:45,330
had that attitude towards everything

1414
01:02:51,740 --> 01:02:48,060
we'd never explore even our own planet

1415
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:51,750
right we'd be afraid to you know get off

1416
01:02:58,850 --> 01:02:55,500
the the the rowboat or the canoe I don't

1417
01:03:02,570 --> 01:02:58,860
know I just don't see it you know like I

1418
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:02,580
say this is a 2015 we have more

1419
01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:06,660
precautions available then we certainly

1420
01:03:12,980 --> 01:03:09,120
did you know with twenty five fifty or a

1421
01:03:16,550 --> 01:03:12,990
hundred years ago and by time this

1422
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:16,560
happens on a theoretical basis probably

1423
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:19,119
will even have more precautions in

1424
01:03:25,529 --> 01:03:21,880
play but ok let's do it on Mars if

1425
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:25,539
somehow we could take these right well

1426
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:26,650
first of all we don't know if they're

1427
01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:29,049
there that we know that there's now

1428
01:03:31,890 --> 01:03:30,430
they're saying there's water even though

1429
01:03:36,059 --> 01:03:31,900
we suspected that it might have been

1430
01:03:38,249 --> 01:03:36,069
there but the gates at all right right

1431
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:38,259
one but they're taking the precautions

1432
01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:40,089
yeah just in case and I think they're

1433
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:41,740
leaning more towards the idea that life

1434
01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:44,950
is there it would seem plausible that's

1435
01:03:48,690 --> 01:03:46,990
the case and to follow up with what I

1436
01:03:50,430 --> 01:03:48,700
talked about on Monday these new

1437
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:50,440
directorates and all this other stuff I

1438
01:03:53,819 --> 01:03:52,089
think are the formalities even the

1439
01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:53,829
United Nations has their own protocols

1440
01:03:57,749 --> 01:03:55,420
for welcoming alien life or even

1441
01:03:59,249 --> 01:03:57,759
welcoming the possibility of microbial

1442
01:04:03,089 --> 01:03:59,259
life but this was done many years ago

1443
01:04:06,089 --> 01:04:03,099
when they assigned the outer space the

1444
01:04:08,609 --> 01:04:06,099
outer space consider that with a consult

1445
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:08,619
that was there at NASA at the United

1446
01:04:14,549 --> 01:04:11,529
Nations triple-eight 673 3,700 a triple

1447
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:14,559
eight 673 3710 beckley was on Ground

1448
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:17,049
Zero will be back contamination process

1449
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:21,730
complete a nice day I'm quite Louise and

1450
01:04:26,099 --> 01:04:24,130
this is ground zero a little science

1451
01:04:28,890 --> 01:04:26,109
fiction predictive programming for you

1452
01:04:32,759 --> 01:04:28,900
all Prometheus about aliens you want to

1453
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:32,769
kill us with biological weapons bacteria

1454
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:35,170
from space bacteria that evolves into

1455
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:36,110
those

1456
01:04:40,810 --> 01:04:39,170
acid bloody aliens and of course

1457
01:04:43,450 --> 01:04:40,820
Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton's

1458
01:04:45,010 --> 01:04:43,460
thriller about bringing back some

1459
01:04:46,630 --> 01:04:45,020
contaminant and I was reminded by

1460
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:46,640
Christopher tonight an email remember

1461
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:47,930
the third planet of the apes will be

1462
01:04:52,660 --> 01:04:50,090
Ricardo Montalban was showing Roddy

1463
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:52,670
McDowall 8 character the memorial statue

1464
01:04:58,810 --> 01:04:55,130
to all the dogs and cats who were

1465
01:05:00,730 --> 01:04:58,820
extinct due to bacteria brought back by

1466
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:00,740
the astronauts it has been in our

1467
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:02,330
mythologies has been our movies it's

1468
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:04,250
been part of scripts the idea that

1469
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,410
perhaps we could be contaminated by this

1470
01:05:10,330 --> 01:05:08,240
life that we've discovered or that may

1471
01:05:12,370 --> 01:05:10,340
be discovered on Mars it's go to Glenn

1472
01:05:16,330 --> 01:05:12,380
in Texas I Glenn you're on with Timothy

1473
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:16,340
blackley go ahead hello Tim how y'all

1474
01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:20,210
did great what if I say I think we

1475
01:05:28,540 --> 01:05:24,230
always project ourselves into an alien

1476
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:28,550
scenario our human use ilysm it's like

1477
01:05:37,410 --> 01:05:33,680
it's like listening to a disney wildlife

1478
01:05:45,690 --> 01:05:37,420
show it's it's not really accurate I

1479
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:45,700
think unfortunately we could be facing

1480
01:05:52,570 --> 01:05:49,610
creatures with no emotion whatsoever sir

1481
01:05:58,060 --> 01:05:52,580
do you realize that ants and termites

1482
01:06:01,570 --> 01:05:58,070
they have metrology they have limbo

1483
01:06:03,850 --> 01:06:01,580
ology they have agriculture they have

1484
01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:03,860
chemistry they even have animal

1485
01:06:13,930 --> 01:06:09,950
husbandry and we wouldn't call them in

1486
01:06:17,770 --> 01:06:13,940
any way shape or form intelligent but

1487
01:06:21,070 --> 01:06:17,780
that may be one scenario there may be an

1488
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:21,080
intelligence to the creatures but they

1489
01:06:29,380 --> 01:06:24,170
wouldn't be interested in subjugation or

1490
01:06:31,870 --> 01:06:29,390
power or or or any kind of emotionalism

1491
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:31,880
as we know it right and that's really

1492
01:06:35,170 --> 01:06:33,710
frightening that's really frightened you

1493
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,180
bring up an interesting point Glenn and

1494
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:38,000
that is the the psychoanalysis of the

1495
01:06:41,590 --> 01:06:40,160
aliens of the psychoanalysis of life if

1496
01:06:44,350 --> 01:06:41,600
we find it in your right the answer

1497
01:06:45,970 --> 01:06:44,360
primores yeah me and from Orphic with

1498
01:06:48,329 --> 01:06:45,980
the aliens is also something that may be

1499
01:06:50,459 --> 01:06:48,339
a mistake but it's true though

1500
01:06:53,670 --> 01:06:50,469
and Tim I I think you may know this too

1501
01:06:56,370 --> 01:06:53,680
is Tim still with us I'm here ok there

1502
01:06:58,559 --> 01:06:56,380
you are it isn't interesting though that

1503
01:07:01,079 --> 01:06:58,569
if you're watching a movie about

1504
01:07:02,430 --> 01:07:01,089
extraterrestrials we don't care about

1505
01:07:04,289 --> 01:07:02,440
the extraterrestrials that don't look

1506
01:07:06,180 --> 01:07:04,299
anthropomorphic we care more about them

1507
01:07:08,479 --> 01:07:06,190
they see more human-like and that I

1508
01:07:11,969 --> 01:07:08,489
think is dangerous as well don't you

1509
01:07:13,709 --> 01:07:11,979
well you know again there's so many

1510
01:07:15,539 --> 01:07:13,719
different scenarios that you could you

1511
01:07:18,829 --> 01:07:15,549
could pick here you know I was thinking

1512
01:07:22,849 --> 01:07:18,839
before okay suppose we we come across a

1513
01:07:24,809 --> 01:07:22,859
an evil a negative a group of

1514
01:07:27,180 --> 01:07:24,819
extraterrestrials they aliens somewhere

1515
01:07:28,739 --> 01:07:27,190
in space booze not to say in fact this

1516
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:28,749
is one of the things that the contactees

1517
01:07:32,130 --> 01:07:30,609
have always said for years that we are

1518
01:07:35,190 --> 01:07:32,140
actually protected that there are other

1519
01:07:38,009 --> 01:07:35,200
groups that kind of keep an eye on our

1520
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:38,019
atmosphere to make sure that some of

1521
01:07:43,259 --> 01:07:41,440
these negative groups don't come here

1522
01:07:44,779 --> 01:07:43,269
and and harass us of course it seems

1523
01:07:46,859 --> 01:07:44,789
like you're getting through on some

1524
01:07:48,599 --> 01:07:46,869
occasions but we don't know what we're

1525
01:07:50,519 --> 01:07:48,609
dealing with a we have all these cases

1526
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:50,529
of different types of altered

1527
01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:52,960
terrestrials from all over the world so

1528
01:07:58,170 --> 01:07:55,390
it would seem that some sort of a

1529
01:08:01,499 --> 01:07:58,180
contact with something has already taken

1530
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:01,509
place so I kind of like to bump it up a

1531
01:08:06,959 --> 01:08:03,849
level beyond the you know the

1532
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:06,969
microscopic tight right Glenn thank you

1533
01:08:10,650 --> 01:08:08,950
a call that's a great call let's go down

1534
01:08:13,049 --> 01:08:10,660
to Terrance in South Carolina hi

1535
01:08:14,910 --> 01:08:13,059
Terrance from ground zero hey I

1536
01:08:16,499 --> 01:08:14,920
appreciate you taking my call Opie

1537
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:16,509
gentlemen are doing well tonight we are

1538
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:20,020
going head all right I was listening to

1539
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:21,759
yourselves and I've been listening to it

1540
01:08:26,430 --> 01:08:23,920
now strongly for about two years and I

1541
01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:26,440
am in South Carolina I only get an hour

1542
01:08:33,030 --> 01:08:29,949
of your broadcast sorry i'm new too I'm

1543
01:08:35,579 --> 01:08:33,040
yeah I know right I'm new to this the

1544
01:08:39,329 --> 01:08:35,589
whole conspiracy theory thing Mars and

1545
01:08:41,370 --> 01:08:39,339
what have you and I'm curious to know do

1546
01:08:45,269 --> 01:08:41,380
you believe that it could possibly be up

1547
01:08:48,329 --> 01:08:45,279
and where these elite the ones who

1548
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:48,339
control us or rule over us could it be a

1549
01:08:52,559 --> 01:08:50,170
possibility that they want to find out

1550
01:08:54,450 --> 01:08:52,569
if life can be supported on Mars so that

1551
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:54,460
they can leave this planet because they

1552
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:58,000
know of an impending destruction to this

1553
01:09:02,379 --> 01:08:59,839
planet I mean most shows that

1554
01:09:04,510 --> 01:09:02,389
I've seen such as the walking dead and

1555
01:09:08,970 --> 01:09:04,520
the x-files they deal with these

1556
01:09:12,129 --> 01:09:08,980
situations where they speak on um the

1557
01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:12,139
elite trying to find a way to get out of

1558
01:09:15,519 --> 01:09:14,150
here leave everybody look on Terrence

1559
01:09:17,260 --> 01:09:15,529
Terrence is called the breakaway

1560
01:09:18,910 --> 01:09:17,270
civilization Tim do you have any

1561
01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:18,920
thoughts on the breakaway civilizations

1562
01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:21,440
I know many people have talked about

1563
01:09:25,149 --> 01:09:22,969
this and the idea that there is some

1564
01:09:27,339 --> 01:09:25,159
catastrophe looming and that's why they

1565
01:09:32,220 --> 01:09:27,349
are rushing towards such states is 20 30

1566
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:32,230
maybe even 2050 well you know for sure

1567
01:09:37,689 --> 01:09:34,730
only the rich are going to get off the

1568
01:09:39,579 --> 01:09:37,699
the planet I mean even if we go to one

1569
01:09:41,589 --> 01:09:39,589
of these like Bob Bigelow who's got a

1570
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:41,599
you know his own space program you know

1571
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,849
private the Commerce how much is it

1572
01:09:49,959 --> 01:09:45,679
going to cost you to take a seat there

1573
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:49,969
on his ship probably more than you and I

1574
01:09:55,180 --> 01:09:52,489
even if we pulled our pennies would be

1575
01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:55,190
able what would be able to get a seat

1576
01:10:01,390 --> 01:09:58,310
there you know and yes I I think that

1577
01:10:05,140 --> 01:10:01,400
this a breakaway civilization the secret

1578
01:10:08,290 --> 01:10:05,150
space program is as we call it exists

1579
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:08,300
and some of these people may be the

1580
01:10:11,379 --> 01:10:10,010
ultra-rich maybe some other in the New

1581
01:10:12,609 --> 01:10:11,389
World Order a little bit naughty I don't

1582
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:12,619
know what you want to call them have

1583
01:10:19,959 --> 01:10:16,489
actually been taking a part in in space

1584
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:19,969
travel for many years you know without

1585
01:10:24,939 --> 01:10:22,670
us being aware of it in fact even going

1586
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:24,949
back to 1897 you know the UFO flap that

1587
01:10:29,979 --> 01:10:27,710
took a place in the United States and in

1588
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:29,989
several other countries as well many of

1589
01:10:33,850 --> 01:10:31,730
these ships are actually landed and they

1590
01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:33,860
conversed with the farmers and ranchers

1591
01:10:40,169 --> 01:10:37,790
in ordinary people in several cities and

1592
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:40,179
what did they do they looked human and

1593
01:10:49,030 --> 01:10:44,330
they spoke English and they always

1594
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:49,040
concocted some totally absurd story as

1595
01:10:52,990 --> 01:10:51,530
to you know where they have originated

1596
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,000
from they were from Cuba they were from

1597
01:10:58,990 --> 01:10:56,480
Holland they were from Argentina now

1598
01:11:01,419 --> 01:10:59,000
they tell you they're from Mars or Venus

1599
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:01,429
so we really don't know but yeah there

1600
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:03,409
has been this breakaway civilization or

1601
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:06,110
space secret space program that's been

1602
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:08,330
going on behind our backs I I would

1603
01:11:12,580 --> 01:11:09,679
suspect I mean we've talked about that

1604
01:11:13,570 --> 01:11:12,590
on the on the air before how perhaps

1605
01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:13,580
even the the

1606
01:11:19,780 --> 01:11:17,480
Germans as far back as the 1920s had

1607
01:11:21,970 --> 01:11:19,790
channeled information from some outside

1608
01:11:23,890 --> 01:11:21,980
this source and had gone off on their

1609
01:11:26,710 --> 01:11:23,900
own to develop their own space program

1610
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:26,720
and as part of project paper clip we

1611
01:11:30,970 --> 01:11:27,920
brought them over here to the United

1612
01:11:33,460 --> 01:11:30,980
States a lot of these up devout not

1613
01:11:37,620 --> 01:11:33,470
seasoned Germans and scientists and in

1614
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,630
put them to work and they probably were

1615
01:11:42,190 --> 01:11:40,400
working on this their own old method of

1616
01:11:45,580 --> 01:11:42,200
getting into space and that information

1617
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:45,590
i do believe is being kept from us and

1618
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:48,050
maybe even NASA doesn't know about it

1619
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:50,270
well and we know from last night showed

1620
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:52,610
up actually in two nights ago das Mars

1621
01:11:56,830 --> 01:11:55,010
project was something that Verner von

1622
01:12:00,250 --> 01:11:56,840
Braun had thought up and was eventually

1623
01:12:01,930 --> 01:12:00,260
part of a Disney presentation and yes so

1624
01:12:03,580 --> 01:12:01,940
he was put into the public as a

1625
01:12:04,450 --> 01:12:03,590
possibility of going to Mars long before

1626
01:12:06,220 --> 01:12:04,460
they even thought about going to the

1627
01:12:08,890 --> 01:12:06,230
moon let's go to mark in Texas you're on

1628
01:12:12,490 --> 01:12:08,900
with Tim beckley go ahead hey how you

1629
01:12:14,380 --> 01:12:12,500
doing what doing great all right so as

1630
01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:14,390
I'm listening I'm hearing more and more

1631
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:17,030
people talk about you know like space

1632
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,690
outer space you know travel above our

1633
01:12:25,180 --> 01:12:22,640
earth's surface and stuff like that and

1634
01:12:28,030 --> 01:12:25,190
what I'm here to ask you today is do you

1635
01:12:29,890 --> 01:12:28,040
think this is the only way we'd ever

1636
01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:29,900
come in contact with extraterrestrial

1637
01:12:39,460 --> 01:12:34,460
life-forms is traveling above our planet

1638
01:12:42,220 --> 01:12:39,470
no absolutely not no not at all it's not

1639
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:42,230
the other way I would I was learning

1640
01:12:47,380 --> 01:12:44,690
about the the Large Hadron Collider not

1641
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:47,390
too long ago and how about the Large

1642
01:12:51,490 --> 01:12:49,130
Hadron Collider was used to find the

1643
01:12:53,740 --> 01:12:51,500
Higgs boson and I guess it got shut down

1644
01:12:55,690 --> 01:12:53,750
for a while and now it is being ended

1645
01:13:00,010 --> 01:12:55,700
put independently funded in Switzerland

1646
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:00,020
and what they are doing now is it's

1647
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:02,570
pretty it's pretty crazy and as I was

1648
01:13:06,370 --> 01:13:04,490
listening to you talked earlier about a

1649
01:13:07,660 --> 01:13:06,380
bunch of warnings I've been happening

1650
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:07,670
you know I've heard just heard a lot of

1651
01:13:12,730 --> 01:13:10,610
hoopla here and they are about the Blood

1652
01:13:14,020 --> 01:13:12,740
Moon you know and if something has to do

1653
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:14,030
with the Jews and everybody getting

1654
01:13:16,450 --> 01:13:15,110
together and and there's all these

1655
01:13:18,490 --> 01:13:16,460
warning signs if they do start to make

1656
01:13:22,150 --> 01:13:18,500
sense and as I'm and as I was watching

1657
01:13:25,060 --> 01:13:22,160
this I guess documentary type deal about

1658
01:13:27,339 --> 01:13:25,070
about how firm is using the Large Hadron

1659
01:13:30,099 --> 01:13:27,349
Collider to to do something great

1660
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:30,109
Peter and it was relating a lot of the

1661
01:13:35,229 --> 01:13:33,320
things to the Christian Bible and it was

1662
01:13:36,639 --> 01:13:35,239
it would be that they coincided pretty

1663
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:36,649
good you know although I'm not I'm

1664
01:13:41,739 --> 01:13:39,530
although I'm an agnostic I do believe

1665
01:13:44,409 --> 01:13:41,749
that a lot of things in the Bible are

1666
01:13:47,290 --> 01:13:44,419
you know I mean we can we can fit a

1667
01:13:49,060 --> 01:13:47,300
contact we can fit any prophecy into

1668
01:13:52,389 --> 01:13:49,070
what is happening now many people have

1669
01:13:53,619 --> 01:13:52,399
fit prophecy uh you know Anthony patch

1670
01:13:55,509 --> 01:13:53,629
has been on the program talk about

1671
01:13:57,099 --> 01:13:55,519
certain fitting that in the prophecy but

1672
01:13:58,899 --> 01:13:57,109
the bottom line is is they told us that

1673
01:14:01,149 --> 01:13:58,909
it was time to find the Higgs boson they

1674
01:14:03,549 --> 01:14:01,159
allegedly found the Higgs boson and then

1675
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:03,559
from there the idea was to open a rosin

1676
01:14:07,060 --> 01:14:05,329
bridge wide enough and long enough to

1677
01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:07,070
send something through or have something

1678
01:14:10,179 --> 01:14:08,510
come back and if you believe what

1679
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:10,189
Anthony patch has been saying the whole

1680
01:14:15,219 --> 01:14:13,249
idea is to make a conduit wormhole to

1681
01:14:17,349 --> 01:14:15,229
places like Saturn and Jupiter and other

1682
01:14:19,959 --> 01:14:17,359
and other planets they could also

1683
01:14:21,879 --> 01:14:19,969
construct a wormhole that could take us

1684
01:14:23,859 --> 01:14:21,889
directly to Mars in a short amount of

1685
01:14:26,139 --> 01:14:23,869
time rather than long-term space travel

1686
01:14:27,639 --> 01:14:26,149
all we have to do is just walk through

1687
01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:27,649
the wormhole to the other side or walk

1688
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:29,300
through the stable wormhole they create

1689
01:14:33,099 --> 01:14:30,530
and walk to the other side I know that

1690
01:14:35,469 --> 01:14:33,109
sounds so science fiction but science

1691
01:14:38,259 --> 01:14:35,479
fiction is becoming more science fact as

1692
01:14:39,639 --> 01:14:38,269
we progress in what is called the future

1693
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:39,649
the future that they talked about in

1694
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:41,449
comic books in the Jetsons it's really

1695
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:44,719
amazing I definitely agree with you and

1696
01:14:50,229 --> 01:14:47,570
then I can't disagree on that one and

1697
01:14:52,919 --> 01:14:50,239
and yet it is good to me you mentioned

1698
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:52,929
how it's a wormhole to get us somewhere

1699
01:14:57,159 --> 01:14:55,070
somewhere in our in our physical world

1700
01:14:58,719 --> 01:14:57,169
what what I was thinking and what has

1701
01:15:02,139 --> 01:14:58,729
been an idea in my mind it was something

1702
01:15:03,339 --> 01:15:02,149
like dimensional travel of course that

1703
01:15:04,659 --> 01:15:03,349
pop yeah that's exactly what we're

1704
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:04,669
talking about using the dimensional

1705
01:15:08,799 --> 01:15:06,409
doorway is open on i will say you know

1706
01:15:11,669 --> 01:15:08,809
even even psychics even psychics going

1707
01:15:15,009 --> 01:15:11,679
back 100 to 200 years there was a medium

1708
01:15:17,310 --> 01:15:15,019
who wrote a book i think was probably in

1709
01:15:21,459 --> 01:15:17,320
around eighteen seventy years old called

1710
01:15:22,810 --> 01:15:21,469
from india to the planet mars and a lot

1711
01:15:25,149 --> 01:15:22,820
of people that were involved in

1712
01:15:26,739 --> 01:15:25,159
paranormal research at that time we're

1713
01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:26,749
taking out of body trips and claiming

1714
01:15:30,369 --> 01:15:28,340
that they were going to other planets

1715
01:15:33,339 --> 01:15:30,379
and and meeting it you know of

1716
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:33,349
intelligent beings there now who's to

1717
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:35,689
say we're looking for microscopic beings

1718
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:38,090
and and so forth who's to say that there

1719
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:40,310
aren't beings that live

1720
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:42,290
in a parallel universe or another

1721
01:15:46,540 --> 01:15:44,510
dimension that are invisible to us oh

1722
01:15:48,340 --> 01:15:46,550
yeah under under normal conditions will

1723
01:15:49,930 --> 01:15:48,350
you we've discussed that before you've

1724
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:49,940
had other guest on the program Clyde

1725
01:15:55,210 --> 01:15:52,880
that brought up their own experiences or

1726
01:15:57,700 --> 01:15:55,220
experiences along the sideline we were

1727
01:16:00,190 --> 01:15:57,710
talking when we talk about CERN there

1728
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:00,200
are alien beings that can be just pure

1729
01:16:04,420 --> 01:16:02,570
light or alien beings that are not seen

1730
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:04,430
and yet you feel their presence and the

1731
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,770
idea that many of them wish to incarnate

1732
01:16:10,060 --> 01:16:08,480
and how are they going to do so that if

1733
01:16:12,220 --> 01:16:10,070
they don't create artificial

1734
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:12,230
intelligence or at least containers for

1735
01:16:16,270 --> 01:16:13,610
these beings that they could have

1736
01:16:17,980 --> 01:16:16,280
carnate and become literally walking and

1737
01:16:21,070 --> 01:16:17,990
talking physical beings on this planet

1738
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:21,080
and that to me you know sounds

1739
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:23,810
outrageous but anymore nothing so

1740
01:16:27,850 --> 01:16:25,310
outrageous is to listen to what they're

1741
01:16:29,530 --> 01:16:27,860
planning for us by mapping the brain and

1742
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:29,540
moving things and trying to collect the

1743
01:16:34,420 --> 01:16:31,370
soul and then going to Mars and finding

1744
01:16:36,190 --> 01:16:34,430
life all these things sound peculiar and

1745
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:36,200
somebody wants somebody emailed me today

1746
01:16:39,220 --> 01:16:37,850
and said I really love it when you talk

1747
01:16:41,290 --> 01:16:39,230
about world events rather than all this

1748
01:16:43,210 --> 01:16:41,300
alien stuff and I wrote her back I says

1749
01:16:45,550 --> 01:16:43,220
what are you talking about this is world

1750
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:45,560
events they haven't announced this as

1751
01:16:49,810 --> 01:16:47,450
usual aliens aren't real they're demons

1752
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:49,820
I said you know wake up I mean this has

1753
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,770
been happening for some time now they

1754
01:16:55,180 --> 01:16:54,080
finally have told us a little bit of the

1755
01:16:57,010 --> 01:16:55,190
puzzle not the hope they haven't given

1756
01:16:59,260 --> 01:16:57,020
us the whole puzzle yet but I'm just

1757
01:17:00,970 --> 01:16:59,270
thinking you know this is a world of

1758
01:17:03,250 --> 01:17:00,980
it's the longer paranormal this is part

1759
01:17:05,350 --> 01:17:03,260
of normalcy now our normalcy bias has

1760
01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:05,360
been stepped on with regard to the

1761
01:17:08,770 --> 01:17:06,710
aliens and now we have to figure out

1762
01:17:10,570 --> 01:17:08,780
what's the next phase the next step for

1763
01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,580
NASA to report mark thanks for the call

1764
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:12,080
Tim beckley whether it stood on the

1765
01:17:25,569 --> 01:17:13,310
ground zero we'll be back with more to

1766
01:17:29,020 --> 01:17:27,189
I'm like Lewis and this is ground zero

1767
01:17:31,779 --> 01:17:29,030
Timothy Bickley with Aston on the ground

1768
01:17:35,529 --> 01:17:31,789
zero mr. UFO I wanted to ask something

1769
01:17:38,919 --> 01:17:35,539
before we go to another call Tim and I'm

1770
01:17:40,359 --> 01:17:38,929
very surprised and how this was all

1771
01:17:44,020 --> 01:17:40,369
accepted how this has all been taken the

1772
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:44,030
announcement was made and there was as

1773
01:17:49,149 --> 01:17:45,760
much excitement as I had thought about

1774
01:17:50,979 --> 01:17:49,159
this issue and that I figured it would

1775
01:17:54,069 --> 01:17:50,989
be buzzed and buzzed and buzzed on the

1776
01:17:56,500 --> 01:17:54,079
news but no politics are still capturing

1777
01:17:58,929 --> 01:17:56,510
the imaginations or at least the media

1778
01:18:00,879 --> 01:17:58,939
is pushing politics and pushing these

1779
01:18:02,469 --> 01:18:00,889
things so we don't think about the

1780
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:02,479
possibility of life is that the case

1781
01:18:07,199 --> 01:18:04,489
because I'm really surprised that there

1782
01:18:09,579 --> 01:18:07,209
aren't no you know intense or in

1783
01:18:11,799 --> 01:18:09,589
in-depth coverage or three-day coverages

1784
01:18:14,020 --> 01:18:11,809
in the news cycle well you know of

1785
01:18:17,049 --> 01:18:14,030
course the Pope was you know around

1786
01:18:19,449 --> 01:18:17,059
during this period is well but you know

1787
01:18:21,389 --> 01:18:19,459
maybe the media considers it it's like I

1788
01:18:23,589 --> 01:18:21,399
say it's some of this has been done uh

1789
01:18:26,290 --> 01:18:23,599
before maybe they're looking for a

1790
01:18:28,989 --> 01:18:26,300
little bit more hardcore evidence I

1791
01:18:31,509 --> 01:18:28,999
don't know if anybody has anybody taken

1792
01:18:33,879 --> 01:18:31,519
a survey or a poll of the public to see

1793
01:18:37,209 --> 01:18:33,889
what they think of the idea that there

1794
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:37,219
there baby water on Mars I mean I I

1795
01:18:42,250 --> 01:18:39,409
would think that the it did not get the

1796
01:18:44,679 --> 01:18:42,260
coverage that it deserved I know that's

1797
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:44,689
that's very short the buzz about it on

1798
01:18:52,179 --> 01:18:49,249
the internet was the hype was bigger

1799
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:52,189
than the the actual release of the

1800
01:18:55,659 --> 01:18:54,289
information I would have thought that

1801
01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:55,669
they would have had a press conference

1802
01:19:01,389 --> 01:18:59,570
on CNN and they have in the past but i

1803
01:19:03,579 --> 01:19:01,399
don't know maybe there's just too much

1804
01:19:04,989 --> 01:19:03,589
news going on at it you got to space

1805
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:04,999
these things just at the right moment

1806
01:19:08,409 --> 01:19:07,010
yeah maybe the timing was off but it

1807
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:08,419
again the Martian opens this friday

1808
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:10,489
let's go to arnold ohio your own ground

1809
01:19:14,889 --> 01:19:13,010
zero hey I wanted to bring forth a

1810
01:19:17,829 --> 01:19:14,899
couple of things about the human race

1811
01:19:20,529 --> 01:19:17,839
mankind and what we don't do we usually

1812
01:19:23,889 --> 01:19:20,539
jump before we look I'll give you two

1813
01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:23,899
examples the ten can was invented before

1814
01:19:32,889 --> 01:19:27,260
the can opener and the second thing is

1815
01:19:36,669 --> 01:19:32,899
that in the early space space age we set

1816
01:19:38,620 --> 01:19:36,679
a disk on a satellite out into the

1817
01:19:41,950 --> 01:19:38,630
universe they're told

1818
01:19:44,500 --> 01:19:41,960
exactly where we are who we are what

1819
01:19:46,740 --> 01:19:44,510
planet were on and a sample of the

1820
01:19:49,290 --> 01:19:46,750
English language and a few other things

1821
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:49,300
why would you want to do that and not

1822
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:53,210
not know what's on the receiving end and

1823
01:19:58,150 --> 01:19:55,570
I want to use those two parables

1824
01:20:00,640 --> 01:19:58,160
anything that they may find of any life

1825
01:20:02,500 --> 01:20:00,650
form anywhere else it needs to be left

1826
01:20:04,330 --> 01:20:02,510
where it is until you can figure out how

1827
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:04,340
to contain it and control it before you

1828
01:20:08,110 --> 01:20:06,050
even think about bringing it back there

1829
01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:08,120
or watch it and not touch it because I'm

1830
01:20:12,490 --> 01:20:11,150
sure that once again we may even we have

1831
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:12,500
the directors for extraterrestrial

1832
01:20:16,420 --> 01:20:14,330
contact laws against and come in contact

1833
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:16,430
and of course we may even invent the

1834
01:20:20,650 --> 01:20:18,650
prime directive the same as what is on

1835
01:20:22,330 --> 01:20:20,660
Star Trek and of course we've actually

1836
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:22,340
fashioned and modeled a lot of our

1837
01:20:27,550 --> 01:20:24,770
gadgets and things we use today on the

1838
01:20:28,690 --> 01:20:27,560
Star Trek right the idea that Star Trek

1839
01:20:31,150 --> 01:20:28,700
model so who knows what will happen

1840
01:20:32,410 --> 01:20:31,160
Arnold thanks for the call Timothy thank

1841
01:20:34,270 --> 01:20:32,420
you for being on the program that it was

1842
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:34,280
very interesting conversation well my

1843
01:20:38,650 --> 01:20:36,770
pleasure always to be on ground zero and

1844
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:38,660
one last reminder if anybody is

1845
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:40,430
intrigued by the information that I am

1846
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:42,890
able to supply please subscribe to my

1847
01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:45,650
youtube channel which is mr. UFO secret

1848
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:47,840
files we have about fifty five

1849
01:20:52,660 --> 01:20:50,090
interviews up there many of which I've

1850
01:20:54,910 --> 01:20:52,670
done my program which is exploring the

1851
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:54,920
bizarre and some while traveling around

1852
01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:56,690
the country it's all a mysterious

1853
01:21:01,930 --> 01:20:59,090
universe and I'm looking to continue the

1854
01:21:03,010 --> 01:21:01,940
forward to it explore it Tim beckley mr.

1855
01:21:05,530 --> 01:21:03,020
UFO thank you for being on the program

1856
01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:05,540
today we appreciate it take care and as

1857
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:06,830
ground zero for die join us tomorrow

1858
01:21:11,980 --> 01:21:09,770
night and we may be exploring a little

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bit about what's going on with Syria or

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looking into any stories we may have in

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the ground sort of an angle to that I

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mean that's always been the case when

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coming breaking stories tonight I

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thought the story broke a little late so

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we went with this story tomorrow we may

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approach this no guarantees but still

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we're doing our best to get you the most

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information we can on this program

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always trying to bring you an honest and

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interesting look into the world right